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Nov 26, 2009 11:04

[Video shows an old guy wearing a black t-shirt with a great big yellow smiley face in the center. He does not look happy.]

Hello, Nautilus. I just recently arrived here and thought it was about time to introduce myself, since apparently I'm going to be your new neighbour for, oh, the rest of my life or thereabouts. So hello. I'm Brother Cavil ( Read more... )

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[video] apreacherboy November 26 2009, 16:17:09 UTC
Religious counsel? Are you a pastor? Priest?

I am glad; there are few here that are religious at all.

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[video] brothersnark November 26 2009, 20:26:36 UTC
Heheh, really? Not many religious people in a city as magical as this one? I would never have dreamed.

But yes, I am a priest. A clergyman of the Twelve Lords of Kobol, to be exact. I absolve people of their sins. And let me tell you, it's a full-time job.

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Re: [video] apreacherboy November 26 2009, 21:12:11 UTC
I would have thought that such a vivid encounter with the awesome and Divine would cause the heart to be strangely warmed.

...Catholic...?

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[video] brothersnark November 26 2009, 23:56:59 UTC
Human beings have a tragic yet dependable capacity to not see what's right in front of them. Now, what's a Catholic, exactly?

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Re: [video] apreacherboy November 27 2009, 01:05:02 UTC
I am sorry; I had not recognized your order and assumed you to be of the Roman Catholic Church. Please forgive me... Even with the abundance of ideas beyond the limitations of my own world, I fail to anticipate the true unfamiliar.

I have never heard of kobol; might you tell me of your faith.

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[video] brothersnark November 27 2009, 01:19:38 UTC
Oh, gladly, gladly. You see, there are those who believe that life here began out there. Well, maybe I should back up a bit. 'Here' refers to the Twelve Colonies, the planets that humans dwelt on until recently where I'm from. 'Out there' would be Kobol, birthplace of mankind where our ancestors supposedly lived in joy and harmony with the Gods that created us. Naturally that didn't last; there was a terrible cataclysm and an exodus, and we've been separated from our gods ever since, paying homage to them through worship, seeking their comfort through sacrifice.

That's where people like me come in. Since the Gods no longer frolic amongst us as they once did, it falls to the clergy to provide a medium between the powers that be and their human supplicants.

Now, I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're something of a religious man yourself, am I right? Why don't you tell me what you believe? I told you about my religion, it's only fair that you reveal yours.

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Re: [video] apreacherboy November 27 2009, 01:40:24 UTC
Are there Christians in your world ( ... )

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[video] brothersnark November 27 2009, 16:44:14 UTC
So... one true God full of infinite love, hm? Well, Reverend, I have good news and bad news for you. The good news is that aside from that king of kings bit, your faith sounds mighty familiar, and I can say with confidence that there are millions of Christians in my world.

The bad news is they tend to be fanatical maniacs. The religion of the One True God is the faith of the Cylons.

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[video] apreacherboy November 28 2009, 01:03:23 UTC
I am glad; for my God would be present in your world as easily as mine... similarity speaks of the universality of the Divine and Holy.

I confess, Christianity has created fanatical maniacs as well, though the bulk of us are sane, I would like to think. As Methodists, we put a great deal of value on reason and experiance along-side tradition and Scripture.

Who are the Cylons? Can you tell me more of them?

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[video] brothersnark November 28 2009, 01:40:26 UTC
It's a hazard of any religion, really. Mine's no exception. I, too, turn to reason whenever possible to combat the demons of irrationality.

Simply put, the Cylons are humanity's punishment for our own arrogance and flawed nature. We presumed to create life without proving ourselves capable of handling the kind of responsibility accompanying such an act. The Cylons were meant to be humanity's mechanical servants, a slave race that would toil for their entire existences for the sake of our leisure and ease. Naturally, they didn't take too kindly to this state of affairs, and, to make a long story short, the population of the human race where I'm from is currently less than fifty thousand thanks to the Cylons delivering our nuclear comeuppance.

Quite frankly, Reverend, I think we may have had it coming.

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[video] apreacherboy November 28 2009, 01:47:14 UTC
So it is the beings created and abused by humanity that believe in a divine and loving God? That must take a great deal of faith.

I do not believe that God punishes us... though we are fully capable of punishing ourselves. Slavery is a horrid and horrific thing... My own home is fighting a Civil War over that very issue.

Nuclear?

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[video] brothersnark November 28 2009, 02:01:46 UTC
Oh, they've got faith, all right. Loads of it. They think that God intends for the Cylon to replace humanity as His favored children, since they are less susceptible to sin. That last point, I have to admit, I have some trouble debating. A machine is a lot less vulnerable to the temptations and flaws that humanity carries within its very nature.

Really? Huh. That's different. In my faith, one of the primary functions of the gods is supposed to be handing out punishments like party favors. A smiting here, a plague there, the occasional random bolt of lightning to keep the faithful in line, that sort of thing. At least that's how it went in the ancient myths, obviously they're a good deal less active in terms of direct smiting these days. It's easy to see why; as you say, people are more than capable of punishing themselves.

What, you don't have nuclear weapons where you're from? They're basically exceptionally powerful explosives capable of leveling entire cities with a single detonation. The Cylons set off... hell, must have been ( ... )

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Re: [video] apreacherboy November 28 2009, 02:11:21 UTC
The machines that I have met here are as human as myself, if it is even fair to name humnaity as a standard. They are all capable of reasona nd thought... of goodness and of sin.

A great many see God in such a light, but I find the concept of a punitive hell to be inconsistant with a loving and forgiving God.

That......... [Preacher boy is appalled by the idea of such destruction] that is horrific!

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[video] brothersnark November 28 2009, 02:26:28 UTC
Yes, 'horrific' is a fairly apt description. It may turn out to be for the best in the long run, but still, the fact is that we are talking about fifty.... billion or so lives lost in the course of a single day. [Sighs] So, not a fun time. Let me tell you, demand for priests has been pretty darn high among the survivors.

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[video] apreacherboy November 28 2009, 02:34:34 UTC
Fifty billion... [He pales and looks like the thought makes him sick to his stomach]

I am sure you.... are asked often why your Gods would allow such a thing to happen.

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[video] brothersnark November 28 2009, 16:14:57 UTC
Fairly often, yes. Never an easy question to answer.

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