I'm here to support my boy, Trump. And I know this is a warcry to many online...and I don't really want a brawl, especially a political one *shudder* but in the interest of hearing a different perspective
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And....just to make things more complicated. We are HUMONGOUS supporters of gay marriage and pro-choice and scrutinizing police brutality. (Which we know firsthand is real and frightening and just no no no.) But we don't believe that the massive accomplishments this country has achieved in regards to some of these issues are going to be reversed. There are too many human beings who have become self-actualized for that to happen in this century.
I have thoughts about first post. But I'm going to wait to see what other people say. I *will* say though - thank you. It's actually the first time I've heard someone *articulate* the case for Trump.
I agree with parts, disagree with parts. But you knew coming in that it was going to rile people up, and you said it anyway. So good on you.
That said - I *am* going to say something about this second post.
Which is: "here are too many human beings who have become self-actualized for that to happen in this century."
I imagine that's what people in the Middle East were saying during the fundamentalist revolution. Things were way too modern, people were way too progressive...
Not saying it's a 1-to-1 comparison and I *hope* you're right. But I know that unless you are concentrated on moving forward, there's always a danger of someone pulling you back.
It is nerve-wracking to put your self out there....in a political way. But...I think it's worth stating. And YOU, G, have been very supportive about pulling the curtain back this season....
Look, here's the thing. We have to change our party AFFILIATION to vote for Trump in our state's primaries! We have had to let go of the swell of belief we had in Obama for his first term. It's been a difficult decade, no question.
And yes, I understand what you're saying here and in some countries I think you are 100% correct. But not in the melting pot that is this country. Have you seen The Brain series on PBS? He has a segment on genocide which will scare the living hell out of you...and explains why/how/when it happens. I just don't believe we have that limited profile in America in the 21st Century.
I'd like to make an unsupported incendiary comment here with absolute conviction and subtle innuendos about the intelligence of anyone who disagrees with it.
Trump frightens me. Discovering that friends of mine support him has been one of the worst parts of this election cycle. Finding out that someone I like and respect is, if at least not openly racist, supportive of someone who is spouting racist nonsense to get into office (and excusing it as being something that he's doing to "get attention"-from whom, I wonder?), is a little
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It is hard not to take this personally. I get that. I normally stay away from political discussions because I tend to take things very personally, myself. I'm trying to be more objective these days, to disengage my emotions, and just discuss. That said, I feel absolutely horrible that this discussion is hurting you, because I can see that it is. I am sorry for that, for my part in hurting you.
I don't consider myself a racist. But I am white, and I have been told many times that just by being white I am by default a racist.
Like many, many people...peoples...have said, I can't do anything about the color of my skin, so I try to work on my attitude.
Your feelings matter to me. I don't want to hurt you or anyone. I am truly sorry.
Being white in the US means you benefit from a racist system...it's different for different parts of the world, though, and I'm not going to claim that what happens in the US is the center of the world. You've made it clear that you're not in the US, so. :)
I will say that this was definitely not aimed at you-I hadn't read your comments before posting it, and, well...I get the feeling that as someone who is not in the US, you are not as familiar with what has been said by those currently campaigning. So I don't take offense, or feel particularly "hurt" by anything you have said/done-the inclination is to jump up and go, "how could you not know?", but when it's politics that are outside of your own region, I have no real expectations.
Do the best you can by other people. It's all you can do, and you seem to try pretty hard at it, so I'd say you're doing just fine.
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2016's presidential election is going to be terrifying if that man makes it through the primaries.
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Because he made a pact with the devil.
Also, first. second
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I agree with parts, disagree with parts. But you knew coming in that it was going to rile people up, and you said it anyway. So good on you.
That said - I *am* going to say something about this second post.
Which is: "here are too many human beings who have become self-actualized for that to happen in this century."
I imagine that's what people in the Middle East were saying during the fundamentalist revolution. Things were way too modern, people were way too progressive...
Not saying it's a 1-to-1 comparison and I *hope* you're right. But I know that unless you are concentrated on moving forward, there's always a danger of someone pulling you back.
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Look, here's the thing. We have to change our party AFFILIATION to vote for Trump in our state's primaries! We have had to let go of the swell of belief we had in Obama for his first term. It's been a difficult decade, no question.
And yes, I understand what you're saying here and in some countries I think you are 100% correct. But not in the melting pot that is this country. Have you seen The Brain series on PBS? He has a segment on genocide which will scare the living hell out of you...and explains why/how/when it happens. I just don't believe we have that limited profile in America in the 21st Century.
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This is how we do politics in America, right?
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I don't consider myself a racist. But I am white, and I have been told many times that just by being white I am by default a racist.
Like many, many people...peoples...have said, I can't do anything about the color of my skin, so I try to work on my attitude.
Your feelings matter to me. I don't want to hurt you or anyone. I am truly sorry.
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I will say that this was definitely not aimed at you-I hadn't read your comments before posting it, and, well...I get the feeling that as someone who is not in the US, you are not as familiar with what has been said by those currently campaigning. So I don't take offense, or feel particularly "hurt" by anything you have said/done-the inclination is to jump up and go, "how could you not know?", but when it's politics that are outside of your own region, I have no real expectations.
Do the best you can by other people. It's all you can do, and you seem to try pretty hard at it, so I'd say you're doing just fine.
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