should men cry?

Aug 27, 2008 02:59

This was the topic today. ( I see a bus driver three times in a shift. once when we start, and then twice more during the shift our buses are at southgate TC at the same time. We have got into the habit of having discussions on various topics ( Read more... )

men and crying

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buhrger August 27 2008, 14:06:36 UTC
i think the word "should" doesn't mean anything. could you rephrase your question?

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Crying and being a man theotherguy7 August 27 2008, 15:10:53 UTC
What is the best phrasing for the question?
The basic idea was that men cannot show 'softer' emotions as this made them like women.

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buhrger August 27 2008, 15:53:21 UTC
now you're using the word "cannot" as a synonym for the words "should not". try again.

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I have had two hours sleep. theotherguy7 August 27 2008, 18:18:42 UTC
Could you PLEASE give me the answer?

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joncs August 28 2008, 01:24:25 UTC
Without getting into a discussion with the meaninglessness of the word should (which I can see the argument for and am interested that it became the topic of conversation for this post), I would like to suggest that when someone uses the word "should" ,to me, it often means that there, in the underlining depth of the statement, lies a rejection of something.

I "should" exercise.
I "should" spend more time taking care of myself.
I "should" get to places on time.
I "should" go to work.
I "should" cry.
I "should" not cry.

I find it useful to investigate for myself, under these circumstances, the underlining reason for the rejection of the fact that I do or don't cry rather than thinking about whether it "should" or "should not" occur.

Than again, what do I really know?

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very good point theotherguy7 August 28 2008, 07:50:50 UTC
I like this train of thought. Thank you.

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joncs August 28 2008, 01:35:40 UTC
Oh . . . I just thought of another good "should" statement that one can reflect on that I wanted to share:

I "should" not use the word should.

:-)

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great minds buhrger August 28 2008, 02:43:32 UTC
I "should" not use the word should.

got there a while ago

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Re: great minds joncs August 28 2008, 03:00:38 UTC
I think we are on the same wavelength, but my next question would be:

What is the underlining judgment/rejection that exists with the use of the word should, and thus one "should" not use it :-)?

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buhrger August 28 2008, 03:02:12 UTC
(-:

(fwiw, i thought i spelled out my underlying point of view in excruciating detail in that post)

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buhrger August 28 2008, 13:44:46 UTC
I should go to bed. :)
i was going to point htat out :-)

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