Never. Because this isn't even about pro-life/pro-choice. This is about women's reproductive health.
Also, no one forces you to have an abortion. Just like the saying goes, "Don't like abortions? Don't have one." Simple as that. Worry about yourself. Move along.
Are you going to take those babies home and love and care for them? Are you going to support those kids? Give them money for food, clothes, shelter, etcetc. No, I didn't think so. Here, let's throw them into a system that's already massively overfilled so they can live their life in shit.
What I find funny about pro-lifers is that they care about that little clump of cells inside SOMEONE ELSE'S BODY soooooooooo much, but could care less once it's born. Amirite?
It's odd, your line of argument was also given by the pro-slavery side, with regard to what to do with the freedmen.
They said that it's better to remain slaves than to have to struggle with the newly-gained responsibilities of freedom. You say it's better for the child to be killed than lead a less-than-ideal life of an adopted child.
What I find funny about pro-choicers is that they've already been born, but are so willing to deny others that right. Amirite?
Why the fuck do you keep bringing up slavery? That has absolutely nothing to do with abortion.
And what I find funny about pro-lifers is that they've made their choice, and think they can decide what everyone else's should be, regardless of what their life is actually like.
If you can't figure out why I keep bringing up slavery, then you're even more hopeless than I thought.
Here's a hint, let's see if you can figure out the rest. A long time ago, in a land... not so far away, a bunch of people figured out that, even though they were neither slave nor slaver, there was an injustice going on that was so bad that they couldn't sit on the sidelines. Even though it "had nothing to do with them," and even though the slave owners told them to "STFD," they figured out that a travesty is a travesty, no matter how you slice it.
You see, they realized that "if you don't like [insert evil here], don't do [insert evil here as a verb]" didn't always make sense.
Ok, so I took you half-way here. If you can't figure out the rest, then it's on you.
Being forced to give birth when you don't want too. Being forced like some breeding animal to carry a pregnancy to term, even if it isn't viable, even if it will kill you, even if you were raped. A clump of cells that isn't even a person has more rights to your body than you. Is that like slavery? In my mind it worse, and I pray for a world were women everywhere have safe, legal access to services that allow them to control their own body.
Forcing a women to give birth against her will is involuntary servitude, which in the U.S. violates the 13th Amendment. Since you keep insisting this is about slavery, I thought I'd actually bring up the PEOPLE in the argument
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Forcing women to give birth against their will is horrific to me.
To me as well. The thought of being pregnant is a joyful one to me. The thought of being pregnant against my will is akin to being trapped in a windowless room with no hope of escape.
Pro-lifers speak of ethics and morality but there is nothing moral about coercing a woman to carry a pregnancy to term when it can endanger her own life.
Exactly this. Even a so-called "normal" pregnancy can endanger a woman's life. And here in the U.S. (where the majority of the anti-choice people coming out in this thread reside), we have a shamefully high maternal mortality rate for being a supposedly "developed" country, :(.
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Also, no one forces you to have an abortion. Just like the saying goes, "Don't like abortions? Don't have one." Simple as that. Worry about yourself. Move along.
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"Don't like slaves? Don't own one."
"Don't like murder? Don't kill."
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What I find funny about pro-lifers is that they care about that little clump of cells inside SOMEONE ELSE'S BODY soooooooooo much, but could care less once it's born. Amirite?
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But there's more than enough ignorant asshats all over that post as well already. Sigh.
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They said that it's better to remain slaves than to have to struggle with the newly-gained responsibilities of freedom. You say it's better for the child to be killed than lead a less-than-ideal life of an adopted child.
What I find funny about pro-choicers is that they've already been born, but are so willing to deny others that right. Amirite?
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And what I find funny about pro-lifers is that they've made their choice, and think they can decide what everyone else's should be, regardless of what their life is actually like.
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Here's a hint, let's see if you can figure out the rest. A long time ago, in a land... not so far away, a bunch of people figured out that, even though they were neither slave nor slaver, there was an injustice going on that was so bad that they couldn't sit on the sidelines. Even though it "had nothing to do with them," and even though the slave owners told them to "STFD," they figured out that a travesty is a travesty, no matter how you slice it.
You see, they realized that "if you don't like [insert evil here], don't do [insert evil here as a verb]" didn't always make sense.
Ok, so I took you half-way here. If you can't figure out the rest, then it's on you.
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Being forced to give birth when you don't want too. Being forced like some breeding animal to carry a pregnancy to term, even if it isn't viable, even if it will kill you, even if you were raped. A clump of cells that isn't even a person has more rights to your body than you. Is that like slavery? In my mind it worse, and I pray for a world were women everywhere have safe, legal access to services that allow them to control their own body.
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Thank you.
Forcing women to give birth against their will is horrific to me.
To me as well. The thought of being pregnant is a joyful one to me. The thought of being pregnant against my will is akin to being trapped in a windowless room with no hope of escape.
Pro-lifers speak of ethics and morality but there is nothing moral about coercing a woman to carry a pregnancy to term when it can endanger her own life.
Exactly this. Even a so-called "normal" pregnancy can endanger a woman's life. And here in the U.S. (where the majority of the anti-choice people coming out in this thread reside), we have a shamefully high maternal mortality rate for being a supposedly "developed" country, :(.
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Please go away, you have no say in what a women does with their own body. It's absolutely none of your business.
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