ooc: Opinions Sought

Apr 23, 2008 12:58


Alright gang, apologies to you kind folks who only want IC cam-crap here.  I promise the next post will be an IC piece that I'm already working on.  But for right now, in the face of yet another denial from global, I'd like to solicit feedback on the response to my denail justification.  I have provided it all here, the back and forth, under cuts, ( Read more... )

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Devil's Advocate guillermomerced April 24 2008, 11:49:50 UTC
You hit it right on the head in one of your earlier comments.

The OwoD was abused, but more so in the NWoD. For the 1st year or so of the chronicle, they allowed Twillight Projection to be played as it was in the OWod and people would show up to entire games sometimes cons in this way only.

You hit one of Globals fears with this one, giving people back their freedom from thought of death. The problem with all the "weaknesses" of the power is that they are really short sighted. Even if they find out where you are, you can travel there at 500 mph and beat them there with relative ease.

I dunno tho, I'd be pretty pissy if i got knocked down by a lougie.

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Re: Devil's Advocate doubting_tom April 24 2008, 13:09:02 UTC
The lougie power would be pretty cool if you actually got to spit on people

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Re: Devil's Advocate genial_failure April 24 2008, 13:21:39 UTC
Even if they find out where you are, you can travel there at 500 mph and beat them there with relative ease.

Well, that is assuming that they say something like "Ah ha! And now we will go kill your body, muhahahah!" and isn't any more of a problem than standard Twilight Projection or Possession. It would still involve some doing and require subtlety, but a Dominate command to just say "Hey, let's keep discussing this interesting topic." or using Entrancement to say "Oh, your body is vulnerable? I better make sure you're better protected; don't worry, you can trust me."

This devotion is weaker, as standard TP does not leave you open to the same weaknesses, no matter how short sighted, and Possession allows you do things like burn someone's haven down.

Even the torpor fear is essentially pointless with Possession because of the limitation on one-shot kills. Anyone with a brain will flee that body at the start of combat.

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Re: Devil's Advocate guillermomerced April 24 2008, 17:53:38 UTC
I do know how much you like to play devil's advocate, and so I'll indulge you just a little bit.

You say it got abused in oWoD. I suggest that it didn't happen very often, and that it didn't suffer from the drawbacks built into this power, and finally, that the people I saw do that didn't manifest at all, instead kept those arms crossed at all times. So did you really see a lot of people doing it, then manifesting to interact normally the whole time? Did they hurt anything?

On to addressing the real point, though, it wasn't the appropriateness of the power, just the appropriateness of the discussion had with Global.

I'd love to hear your opinions on that, if you'd be a dear.

-H

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Re: Devil's Advocate guillermomerced April 24 2008, 22:20:03 UTC
I'm more of a bear than a deer.

Yes in the OwOD it didn't suffer from the drawbacks of your power. It didn't when people were using it at the bginning of chronicle either.

It sounds like Global was being normal. They barely explain themselves, don't reply to opinions, ect. It's not right, but it seems to be the absolute norm. They should ahve gone into a deeper explaination of why it wasn't approved. Not say "We're approving less customer now so blow me"

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Re: Devil's Advocate thecajun April 24 2008, 22:23:47 UTC
As long as we're in agreement that I'm now being paid money to be told to 'blow me' by my storytellers, I think we're more or less on the same page.

I'm not opposed to certain things being denied, or even everything. But I can cite examples of rule x being denied for me and approved elsewhere the next week. So, no communication, no negotation, and uneven enforcement.

I guess I'm just disappointed that I reupped.

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