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larainefan December 2 2012, 20:41:07 UTC
Okay, I have kind of a question. How much credence do you, Jay, or anyone else who wants to answer, put into the theory Joey Heatherton was George's choice over Pattie? I've been researching it, and though it mostly revolves around comments left in youtube vids, the responder kind of has a point. She says George and Paul were getting death threats from sleeping with so many girls, apparently they crossed some people, Brian urged them to marry. That's why George had to run in and talk to Brian after proposing to Pattie. George didn't even like to have all the media on the press conferences, and suddenly he's okay with them being on his honeymoon? They were perhaps there to verify the fact that he was indeed married? I've always thought it odd that in so many of those photos George is facing away from Pattie, he does not look particularly happy. This person, who must be a Joey Heatherton fan, claims Joey was heavily chaperoned, they both had careers, they were on two different Continents, Joey's family had ties to the mob. ( ... )

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jonesingjay December 2 2012, 21:06:04 UTC
I'm not inclined to believe George would propose marriage to Pattie because he felt forced into it after receiving threats from anonymous people. I find YouTube can be a source of misinformation. Anyone with an agenda can state their opinion as fact and will argue strongly for it without any proof to back it up. Since YouTube wasn't made for discussions and has a set number of characters allowed for comment length I put little to what is said there ( ... )

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larainefan December 2 2012, 21:46:37 UTC
Yeah, I was just interested in hearing your thoughts, I have no preference one way or the other. It's interesting speculation at best. And yes, I know you have a thing for George and Estelle (They did make a very beautiful couple!) :) Actually, apart from this one person who keeps shipping George/Joey, there is almost no info on them dating, no articles, etc. I'm sure he was kind of into her at the time, just as he was into a lot of people, apparently. If anything, it shows he was indeed too young to settle down. Sadly, he exhibited the same behaviour with Olivia. I think George wanted to find true love but I'm not sure he ever really found it with a person, he preferred an abstract cosmic love over close individual soul-mate type love. Almost as if he felt love at a distance was safer, or something,

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jonesingjay December 2 2012, 23:45:53 UTC
For me George's beliefs on love have been confusing for me. It makes me question how genuine he was with it. I'm not saying he is incapable of love, but his ideals on love certainly gave him plenty of room to play around. And, it makes me think "How convenient." being able to cheat without guilt (not saying that George didn't struggle with guilt and his desire). It just seems selfish to me for him to do as he pleased while he could/would be wounded by being cheated on by others.

I don't want to make excuses for George, but it seems that fame at such an early age shaped his views on sex and relationships. And, hey it was a different time, etc. Although I ship George and Estelle I didn't make my newest story about George and Annette. I wanted to challenge myself and have John and Paul be the leads. Sorry, I went off on a bit of a ramble there.

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jonesingjay December 5 2012, 19:17:05 UTC
I've always felt that their extreme fame at such a young age and the perks that came along with it definitely effected their views on women and relationships.

No one said anything about their music though. So, I'm not sure where that comment came from, but yes their music was very good.

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