Hey! I'm so glad you decided to have this discussion, because it's not one I can be involved in very often because I always get attacked. But I know that I'm safe with you. I know you'll disagree with me, but you won't hate me, and you'll still let me call myself a feminist, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.
I'm pro-life for the same reason that I'm against the death penalty and against almost all war (there are some very rare exceptions) and any other forms of legalized death: I don't think we have the right to decide who lives and who dies. Period.
(Not to mention that, just like capital punishment or war, the poor and minorities are the ones who suffer disproportionately from abortion. Upper- or middle-class white people? Really don't get abortions.)
That said, there are exceptions, definitely (for instance, have you been following the bit on the nine-year-old girl that was just excommunicated from the Catholic church? That disgusts me. She was totally an exception).
But I can't say that around feminists. I'm always attacked. I absolutely believe in equal rights for men and women. Period, like you said. I just don't believe that abortion is a right. But when I say that, people attack me and I hate it. I hate it so much. Because I think of myself as a feminist. I label myself that way. I try to fight all the time against the patriarchy and these really awful gender expectations that poison all of our interactions with each other as human beings. But somehow, according to most feminists, none of that "counts" because I happen to be against abortion.
All that having been said, I fully intend to adopt one day. Because I believe that those of us who are against abortion should do something about it. I associate myself with those groups of people who say, "You don't want the baby? That's cool. We'll take him/her, give her/him a good home, raise him/her as best we can." If we're going to speak out against it, we actually have do something constructive to combat it, you know? And I'm also a huuuuge proponent of birth control and all for education about it.
Also, I apparently am not a feminist if I think that there is a difference between a woman who has careless, unprotected sex and has an abortion (and no, please, I am NOT talking about rape victims - that would be sick), and a woman who uses protection, still gets pregnant, and has an abortion. One has my sympathy, the other does not. That is exactly how I would feel if I didn't have religious problems with the whole conception of abortion in the first place.
I'm pro-life for the same reason that I'm against the death penalty and against almost all war (there are some very rare exceptions) and any other forms of legalized death: I don't think we have the right to decide who lives and who dies. Period.
(Not to mention that, just like capital punishment or war, the poor and minorities are the ones who suffer disproportionately from abortion. Upper- or middle-class white people? Really don't get abortions.)
That said, there are exceptions, definitely (for instance, have you been following the bit on the nine-year-old girl that was just excommunicated from the Catholic church? That disgusts me. She was totally an exception).
But I can't say that around feminists. I'm always attacked. I absolutely believe in equal rights for men and women. Period, like you said. I just don't believe that abortion is a right. But when I say that, people attack me and I hate it. I hate it so much. Because I think of myself as a feminist. I label myself that way. I try to fight all the time against the patriarchy and these really awful gender expectations that poison all of our interactions with each other as human beings. But somehow, according to most feminists, none of that "counts" because I happen to be against abortion.
All that having been said, I fully intend to adopt one day. Because I believe that those of us who are against abortion should do something about it. I associate myself with those groups of people who say, "You don't want the baby? That's cool. We'll take him/her, give her/him a good home, raise him/her as best we can." If we're going to speak out against it, we actually have do something constructive to combat it, you know? And I'm also a huuuuge proponent of birth control and all for education about it.
Also, I apparently am not a feminist if I think that there is a difference between a woman who has careless, unprotected sex and has an abortion (and no, please, I am NOT talking about rape victims - that would be sick), and a woman who uses protection, still gets pregnant, and has an abortion. One has my sympathy, the other does not. That is exactly how I would feel if I didn't have religious problems with the whole conception of abortion in the first place.
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