oh, sweet Heroes Season 2 DVDs.

[terebi_me]

I had the box set in hand before noon on Tuesday - I am dedicated, yo. (Unfortunately my eagerness cost me yet again - I bought it at Borders, when I really should have bitten the bullet and taken the long trip out to Target, because yes, just like last time, there IS a special limited edition box set with a sketchbook booklet of Tim Sale art from

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[the_automatik]

God, I hated Season Two. I gave up after like four episodes?

HOMICIDA! POLICIA!

UGH. What was their power? Crying shit tears? Feh.

Also, the characters' inconsistent and contradictory behavior drove me NUTS.

[terebi_me]

Er, thanks for your opinion, I suppose... I'd apologise for the show not being good enough, but I did all I could.

[the_automatik]

I didn't expect you to apologize, silly! I was just agreeing that I didn't like Season Two either. And I was in love with Season One.

[terebi_me]

But I LOVE Season 2. I love it - despite its flaws, which are serious and many. But I love it. Watching it again made me so, so happy, and as I'd anticipated, watching it all at once (well, over two days) improves the hell out of it, even as it highlights the continuity problems.

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[circle23]

have you not caught on to Dexter yet? surfthechannel.com has all the episodes for cable impaired people like me

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[terebi_me]

I've watched all of Dexter and eagerly anticipate the third season. I have friends with Showtime.

Dexter drove me crazy last season, too, but I watch it for Michael C. Hall, who is a genius. That show's got enormous problems, too, and I don't think they're fixable. But I'll keep watching because I love Michael C. Hall and I'll watch anything that he's in.

[terriblelynne]

What do you think the biggest mistake was? I honestly think it was going back to Sylar as uber-villain, especially when the buildup towards "the Nightmare Man" was done so nicely and they really could have gotten a lot of mileage out of that. And of course, anything where Leonard (DL) ends up dead is going to tick me off. :-)

[terebi_me]

Personally speaking, I believe that their biggest mistake was dumbing down the show for people who hadn't seen it before - they repeat information incessantly, including repeating information from the episode we're currently in, as though every single act break was for someone who had JUST tuned into the show for the first time. The continuity errors, I feel branched out of that; if every act break is walking into the show for the first time, they figure the audience won't notice that it doesn't quite hang together. I'm not sure where they got that impression, but it's the kind of move of a writing staff who is frantically scripting against time, wrestling with a network who begs them to make the show stupider because audiences who'll watch a show about superheroes MUST be stupid, and running over budget so they have to keep changing scenes on the fly - without enough time to pay strict attention to continuity. They weren't prepared for a second season; all the odds were against the show surviving - it's about superheroes, it's

[terriblelynne]

Sylar isn't the ubervillain in Season 2 - Adam is, or, more properly, The Company is. Sylar's just slow-burning his way back to Mohinder, and showing that his greatest power is really the ability to manipulate people.

To me, though, THAT felt like building someone back up to being a major player who really should have already been done with his story arc. I LOVE Sylar, I LOVE Zachary Quinto and I was done with him at the end of Season 1, bottom line. Adam was still more lame than The Nightmare Man, sorry. I also felt that Claire was "reset" to where she was in Season 1...she had these incredibly adult-making experiences and then was a stupid kid whining about wanting to cheerlead and endangering her family over some boy. Uh, no.

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[terebi_me]

I am not trying to change your mind, only explain what I see. It's perfectly within your rights to respond with "Uh, no, it's stupid, you're wrong, and fuck this stupid show", so go for it. :)

To me, though, THAT felt like building someone back up to being a major player who really should have already been done with his story arc. I LOVE Sylar, I LOVE Zachary Quinto and I was done with him at the end of Season 1, bottom line.
I respectfully disagree. I wasn't done. I do wish that he had had a different path in Season 2, but I was far from done with his character.

Adam was still more lame than The Nightmare Man, sorry.
I respectfully disagree.

I also felt that Claire was "reset" to where she was in Season 1...she had these incredibly adult-making experiences and then was a stupid kid whining about wanting to cheerlead and endangering her family over some boy. Uh, no.Claire is sixteen years old. Despite everything that happened, she's still only sixteen - and her family was forcing her to become "normal" again, which she just

[absinthe_satori]

I tried watching Heroes season 1, for a few eps. It just didn't really engage me. I thought it had some very good qualities, but it somehow failed to really get my mind ticking.

But, Joe Straczynski, OTOH.. Babylon 5 was one of my favorite series EVAR. I even have an axe (as in, the actual thing you chop wood with) autographed by Joe (as well as other luminaries like John Shirley and Rev. Ivan Stang). At WHC2000 I offered it to Harlan Ellison to chase people around with (he was in a particularly crotchety mood even for him, at the moment) but sadly, he declined. I had a nice video camera - it would've made great TV. LOL

[terebi_me]

B5 is my favorite show of all time. I have two volumes of the scripts on the bookshelf right next to me, but I haven't started reading them yet or it's going to make me cry.

I've had to be kicked in the face a lot for liking B5, too, so I'm a little bit more prepared for having to take my lumps wrt Heroes. It still hurts (it's like someone calling your beloved pet ugly, stupid, and stinky - it's a completely different species from you, so why would you get upset by such a comment?) but it's easier. I actually wish that Heroes was a much more obscure show like B5, so that I could just geek out without 90% of the people who see me doing it don't feel the need to go "Man, I hate that stupid shit" and it could be like "Oh, I've never heard of it..."

[absinthe_satori]

Well, for my part, I won't kick you for loving Heroes. I did see some great qualities in it - it just wasn't -quite- my thing. And I understand ubergeeky fandom plenty well. I've caught my share of splatter for liking such things as B5, Voyager, and (the old) Dr Who and Battlestar Galactica. :)

[absinthe_satori]

It doesn't help that my girlfriend of 6 years hates all sci-fi with an abiding passion. :(