oh, sweet Heroes Season 2 DVDs.

Aug 28, 2008 09:41

I had the box set in hand before noon on Tuesday - I am dedicated, yo. (Unfortunately my eagerness cost me yet again - I bought it at Borders, when I really should have bitten the bullet and taken the long trip out to Target, because yes, just like last time, there IS a special limited edition box set with a sketchbook booklet of Tim Sale art from ( Read more... )

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a rebuttal terebi_me August 28 2008, 21:04:33 UTC
I am not trying to change your mind, only explain what I see. It's perfectly within your rights to respond with "Uh, no, it's stupid, you're wrong, and fuck this stupid show", so go for it. :)

To me, though, THAT felt like building someone back up to being a major player who really should have already been done with his story arc. I LOVE Sylar, I LOVE Zachary Quinto and I was done with him at the end of Season 1, bottom line.
I respectfully disagree. I wasn't done. I do wish that he had had a different path in Season 2, but I was far from done with his character.

Adam was still more lame than The Nightmare Man, sorry.
I respectfully disagree.

I also felt that Claire was "reset" to where she was in Season 1...she had these incredibly adult-making experiences and then was a stupid kid whining about wanting to cheerlead and endangering her family over some boy. Uh, no.
Claire is sixteen years old. Despite everything that happened, she's still only sixteen - and her family was forcing her to become "normal" again, which she just couldn't do - and "normal" for her is cheerleading, being a popular girl. She isn't allowed to do any of those things. I don't blame her for being frustrated. And West (as much of a tool as he is) was the only person her own age who she could talk to. Plus, cute boy. She *did* let herself be talked into making an idiotic mistake, but she's just a kid; everyone makes stupid mistakes when they're that age, and yeah, some of them can be life-threatening. The stakes for her are just a million times higher than anyone else in school.

In parallel there's Mr. Bennet, trying to be "normal", and he doesn't last long, either. They were all naive to think that they could just pick up stakes and move somewhere else and have things go back to the way they were; things will NEVER be the same as they were. But the Bennet parents had to try to give their kids a normal life. There really is no way around it; Claire needs to leave her family if they want to be safe. Noah can't protect her anymore, and he's going to have to figure out that fact to keep Sandra and Lyle safe. Unfortunately, she IS only 16... and has grown up very insulated and protected, so she has no idea how to take care of herself. It's a very ugly situation.

Very early on, Claire figures out that her dad is still lying to her and the family about what he's up to. and she wants her own life - and the only way for her to really do that is to lie, too. The Bennet household is actually uncomfortably realistic in that way; once your entire life has been so infused with lies, it's really difficult to stop lying. They just do it out of reflex now. Meanwhile Sandra and Lyle are just along for the ride, and never quite know what the fuck is going on (especially poor Lyle! Free Lyle!).

I'm sure it's frustrating, but I understood what was going on a lot better on a (third) viewing. I'm quite certain that almost nobody else in the world is going to give it another chance and that's a shame, but... there it is.

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Re: a rebuttal terriblelynne August 28 2008, 21:32:56 UTC
One thing I agree with: "Free Lyle" Please. Poor kid...

I could have even tolerated not seeing hide nor hair of Sylar in 2, but bringing him back at the very end of 2, or at the beginning of 3. I think for me it's a case of "I can't miss you if you don't go away."

To me, Adam seems more like a petulant teenager than anything else. A couple of fan podcasts I listen to were wondering if the regenerative properties kept you emotionally stunted. And no, I don't expect Claire to suddenly be this adult, but I do feel like they don't have enough of her season 1 experiences affecting her Season 2 character, at least not in ways I was able to buy into as a viewer.

I'll give you that I've only watched the entire business once as it aired. If I were to sit down with both seasons on DVD, it's entirely possible I'd feel differently.

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Re: a rebuttal terebi_me August 28 2008, 21:57:20 UTC
I don't want to insist that you watch it again, but it is very, very different if you watch it all as a piece. It makes a lot more sense that way (besides the sloppiness, which actually only starts to happen around episode 8) and it's easier to keep track of the storylines, which are relatively disjointed - season 1 was very tight in that it was all about "save the cheerleader etc" and then "who's the exploding man and can we stop him?" And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why Niki is semi-universally disliked in the Heroes fan community - she's mostly outside the action of the main story arc, and only dips in here and there with her connection to Linderman. There has to be ONE central conflict, with every individual character's arc branching off from it - and Season 2 bungles that kind of badly. And that's not entirely the writers' fault - they were structuring the early part of the season as though they had 22 episodes to bring it all home. Later they realized that they had to scramble to put something on screen.

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