Divided by a Common Language

Apr 27, 2010 23:47

Just read, and was struck by, this quote from a Jonathon Raban essay ( Read more... )

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ekaterin24 April 28 2010, 12:52:13 UTC
I pride myself on knowing a lot of Britishisms through reading a great deal of British novels (mostly fantasy and classic mystery) and watching Britcoms, but I still get confused by some things my British Internet friends. Candies ("treacle" is pretty much "caramel" isn't it? or is that "toffee"?) and political & rugby/football terms are the hardest for me.

I truly pity English-language learners, especially here in the US where any English they've ever learned is probably British English. The library where I work has books on American idioms to help our many immigrant patrons through the minefield of American English.

Within the US, I find regionalisms aren't quite so bad as accents. After 13 years in Maryland (the edge of "the South") I still sometimes have to ask people with deep-South accents to repeat what they've said.

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cmcmck April 28 2010, 16:10:53 UTC
I'm first language English english but also have immediate Italian ancestry and immediate ancestors from parts of England with 'interesting' local dialects, like Sunderland in the North East and Stafford in the 'Black Country' of the Midlands although I was bought up in the 'deep southeast' county of Kent. I also lived in Belgium for a time. This has left me with an accent and useages which people often find hard to pick-although it's indisputably southern English at one level. I've even been accused of being Australian!

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theficklepickle April 28 2010, 20:43:33 UTC
I've even been accused of being Australian!

Me too. I have a mix of London and Yorkshire accents.

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tekalynn April 28 2010, 20:09:27 UTC
"molasses" = "treacle", I think.

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cmcmck April 28 2010, 20:25:09 UTC
Similar but not identical!

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tekalynn April 28 2010, 20:52:39 UTC
Now if someone could explain sultanas to me? I can never remember what, if any, US equivalent they have. Currants?

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chazpure April 28 2010, 22:21:48 UTC
I always thought sultanas were seedless golden raisins. Currants are much smaller - about 1/2 - 1/3 the size of a regular dark raisin.

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cmcmck April 29 2010, 14:02:18 UTC
Sultanas are dried GREEN grapes while raisins and Currants are dried red (black) grapes. Sultanas tend to be plumper and juicier than either raisins or currants.

Does that make sense? :o)

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