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berrylicious877 May 14 2010, 21:24:21 UTC
So for the sake of argument, if Dean were to learn that God had brought Sam back, too. And if Sam decided he wanted to give normal a shot, would Dean be into the idea of staying with Lisa?

And couldn't God have maybe wiped their records too? So they could both choose their paths from that point on, rather than sort of being stuck with one path (criminal records and death certificates make it hard to get into college), and see where they would go with it?

Maybe next season will be a return to hunting wendigos (and did Sam mispronounce that?) and going to see Ben's baseball games.

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teand May 14 2010, 21:41:34 UTC
I think if Dean knew Sam was okay and living a "normal" life of his own, he could give staying with Lisa (for variable definitions of staying) an honest try. I don't know whether it would work or not, I could write it going either way so I'm sure Sera et al could, but at least the attempt wouldn't be weighted down with as much baggage.

They've said that next season will a return to the basics but I think they make break our hearts getting us, and Sam and Dean, to that point.

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berrylicious877 May 14 2010, 21:59:40 UTC
OMG.. please say that Lisa won't end up on a ceiling.

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teand May 14 2010, 22:33:27 UTC
Okay. Lisa won't end up on a ceiling.

But honestly, I don't think she will. Otoh, they've done a couple of things I didn't think they'd do so...

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dmlpacker May 14 2010, 21:31:23 UTC
YES. EXACTLY. That's how I feel about Dean's "ending." It just felt so tragic to me because we all know that's not going to be permanent.

As for Sam...I don't know where they're heading with that so I'll withhold judgment for now.

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teand May 14 2010, 21:43:42 UTC
Yeah, because this isn't the end, but only a pause, it's hard to pass judgement without seeing where they're going. This may be a setup for the MOST AMAZING EPISODE EVER but we won't know that until fall.

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mtee May 14 2010, 22:51:48 UTC
Very well said. Some say Lisa and Ben may have to die to get Dean back to hunting.. but I don't think so. They won't be married..and I think Lisa knows Dean well enough to know she only has him temporarily.

You are so right. For both brothers to get back fully.. they each have to learn to live without each other and then CHOOSE to return. No sense of obligation or duty.. no resentment.. but choosing for all the right reasons.

I tried it this way.. and it's just not the same.

I liked this ep.. it could all end and I would be content.

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teand May 15 2010, 01:53:06 UTC
I think you're right about Lisa and Ben. Lisa knows. I hope they let her be amazing, shoving Dean out the door with a smile and a packed lunch...

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teand May 15 2010, 01:53:47 UTC
I remained fairly objective until after it was over. Then it hit me all at once.

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feather_autant May 15 2010, 09:24:34 UTC
I feel the same way! Dean can never be complete without Sam-- sure, he can pretend he is, but there is a huge hole in him now. My heart hurts so much for him.

And what about Sam? He reward for defeating Lucifer is-- losing Dean? No. Dammit!

I'm exhilarated, and depressed, and so, so sad for them! If this was truly the end of the series I'd be hunting Kripke down right about now.

But it's not the end. Thank god. But it's going to be a loooooong summer.

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teand May 16 2010, 22:36:07 UTC
If he'd just not shown Sam under the light. Because that changes an ending we could have gone through the summer mourning (Sam gone, Dean broken) into a "tune in next year".

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