Re: Conundrum...tanlammyFebruary 22 2009, 23:08:51 UTC
I'll definitely complete the course - now in my last term, and the old man'll not be happy if I quit halfway (I want that Honours degree too!) The long chat's more like a what-I'm-gonna-do-after-getting-the-degree...
...whereupon after a whole day of brooding, I'm come to two conclusions: 1) I definitely will NOT work for my Dad, even if he yells, and 2) I definitely will NOT fall into the same trap as my brother - who went and listened to my Dad and came back to work for him. He regretted it till this day.
So...I CAN come back, but I just want him to let me do my own thing. :/
I did sorta explain to Mom about the scope of an illustrator, and the success of KiDChan (which she finds it fascinating). Then she told me that she's heard about this illustrator dude from TOA (I bet it's Kin Sun!) who's found fame/$$$ even in overseas for being an illustrator - and that if I'm good (uh?), people'll look for me, and I don't even have to work for people i.e. go solo, establish my own keep, etc. I thought she thought it up a bit...far with that lar, but I take it as a good sign that's she's supportive. Only thing's left is 1) finance @ gotta convince the major finance controller called my Dad 2) ugh, the old man called my Dad.
I understand he's the family man kind - like, wants the family to stay together, work together, etc. For that, I'm thankful to have him as a good father who takes care of the family. But he's gotta learn to let us go...let us take our own paths...we need to learn to take care of ourselves too because I know he can't be around to protect us forever (seeing he's pretty old now :/).
That's why, even though I'm dead due for the weekly assignment, I still spent half the week doing that poster - not only as a shot at getting it produced, but to get feedback from people/fellow lecturers, establish the knowledge that "hey I am into Illustration too!" and eventually see whether, like you said, I am able to commit myself and take this up.
While waiting for the results after submission on Tuesday, I plan to email the good lady counselor for an appointment and ask her opinions + where do I go best with my current set of skills/interest/passion (like, I'm more into character design, would animation or illustration or something else suits me best?). (go look for Illo lecturers? uhh...maybe not, after the last time I went to the Illo class back at TOA and Kin Sun kicked me out for not being his student o.O;;;)
But you have been a GREAT help. Honest. At least now I know what actions I can take first before really deciding for myself (regardless what the old man says!). BIG THAAAAAAANKS! ^___________^
For now though, in between assignments...I'll need to work a bit on my pencil-shading/line-art skills before re-attempting gouache and acrylic (heheh...my brush skills probably stink worse than my marker skills ORZ). Been wanting to try out colour-shading! Do I need to learn a new way to shade? How do I blend the colours? ^----^;; Thanks in advance, for sharing your illustration knowledge ^[+++++]^
Re: Conundrum...triroseFebruary 25 2009, 14:04:01 UTC
The key to not working for your Dad isn't being obstinate. Your brother can also chose to quit working for your Dad if he wants to. The key is whether you can find work for yourself. Go forth and find a job to support yourself, and presto! No more listening to your Dad. So that's the real issue you should focus on, not on how much your Dad will be yelling.
Also, I didn't mean to send you to Illo lecturers to take up more skills. I think you can pretty much do a decent illustration by yourself with the skills you already have... just need more practice. I meant sound them out about how to approach the industry, and show them some of your work to ask if you're "there" yet. And to ask what it's REALLY like working in the industry. From what I hear the deadline are a killer -- and if you miss a single one, ppl are reluctant to work with you anymore because a piece of artwork, especially for an ad, is useless after the deadline.
Re: pencil shading. It's pretty much the same as when you're using black and white pencils XD; As for blending, cross hatch it into each other (not at 90 degrees, but at an angle). Be careful to use the right colour from the start -- the paper will only hold so much colour, so it's not possible to blend, like, ten colours into it. Also, we used prismacolour pencils, and were told not to use Luna/Steadtler pencils because of the intensity of the colour. You could probably find something similar in art shops over there.
I have this tendency for my pencil strokes to merge into each other, which KS complained horribly about. :p Maybe you can leave a note on Constance's lj asking her advice on pencil colouring
Re: Conundrum...Solved!tanlammyFebruary 25 2009, 15:59:54 UTC
Hmm...you have a point there. I guess I've been ranting a lot about my Dad but not entirely trying to solve things (of which, I apologize for it.)
Things have...cleared a bit for now. Had a long talk with him (when Mom missed-call me and when I called back, she immediately passed the phone to him! Probably due to me trying to "escape" talking to him all this while...) and despite being a mini-lecture (he told me off for even THINKING for working for people - now I know his reason, despite the direct-to-the-point words), he's said the magic words:
If I want to continue studying, I can go ahead and take up the Illustration course I want. It's not about the money - It's about WHAT I want to do in life.
So...yeah. I think the conundrum's a bit solved now :)
From what I can get of an equation: Taking up Illustration = I do what I love best + different direction from Dad's field + work solo (which I've wanted to do all this while)
I might most probably come round and go crash the Illo department a bit 'round next week (after task submission on that Tuesday). In the mean time, I'll see what the nice-lady-counsellor can say :D
.......for the first time in these few weeks, I've never felt this much relief. It's been a long week, and really, thanks for hearing me out all this while ^_______^ *salute!*
...whereupon after a whole day of brooding, I'm come to two conclusions:
1) I definitely will NOT work for my Dad, even if he yells, and
2) I definitely will NOT fall into the same trap as my brother - who went and listened to my Dad and came back to work for him. He regretted it till this day.
So...I CAN come back, but I just want him to let me do my own thing. :/
I did sorta explain to Mom about the scope of an illustrator, and the success of KiDChan (which she finds it fascinating). Then she told me that she's heard about this illustrator dude from TOA (I bet it's Kin Sun!) who's found fame/$$$ even in overseas for being an illustrator - and that if I'm good (uh?), people'll look for me, and I don't even have to work for people i.e. go solo, establish my own keep, etc.
I thought she thought it up a bit...far with that lar, but I take it as a good sign that's she's supportive. Only thing's left is
1) finance @ gotta convince the major finance controller called my Dad
2) ugh, the old man called my Dad.
I understand he's the family man kind - like, wants the family to stay together, work together, etc. For that, I'm thankful to have him as a good father who takes care of the family. But he's gotta learn to let us go...let us take our own paths...we need to learn to take care of ourselves too because I know he can't be around to protect us forever (seeing he's pretty old now :/).
That's why, even though I'm dead due for the weekly assignment, I still spent half the week doing that poster - not only as a shot at getting it produced, but to get feedback from people/fellow lecturers, establish the knowledge that "hey I am into Illustration too!" and eventually see whether, like you said, I am able to commit myself and take this up.
While waiting for the results after submission on Tuesday, I plan to email the good lady counselor for an appointment and ask her opinions + where do I go best with my current set of skills/interest/passion (like, I'm more into character design, would animation or illustration or something else suits me best?).
(go look for Illo lecturers? uhh...maybe not, after the last time I went to the Illo class back at TOA and Kin Sun kicked me out for not being his student o.O;;;)
But you have been a GREAT help. Honest. At least now I know what actions I can take first before really deciding for myself (regardless what the old man says!). BIG THAAAAAAANKS! ^___________^
For now though, in between assignments...I'll need to work a bit on my pencil-shading/line-art skills before re-attempting gouache and acrylic (heheh...my brush skills probably stink worse than my marker skills ORZ). Been wanting to try out colour-shading! Do I need to learn a new way to shade? How do I blend the colours? ^----^;; Thanks in advance, for sharing your illustration knowledge ^[+++++]^
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Also, I didn't mean to send you to Illo lecturers to take up more skills. I think you can pretty much do a decent illustration by yourself with the skills you already have... just need more practice. I meant sound them out about how to approach the industry, and show them some of your work to ask if you're "there" yet. And to ask what it's REALLY like working in the industry. From what I hear the deadline are a killer -- and if you miss a single one, ppl are reluctant to work with you anymore because a piece of artwork, especially for an ad, is useless after the deadline.
Re: pencil shading. It's pretty much the same as when you're using black and white pencils XD; As for blending, cross hatch it into each other (not at 90 degrees, but at an angle). Be careful to use the right colour from the start -- the paper will only hold so much colour, so it's not possible to blend, like, ten colours into it.
Also, we used prismacolour pencils, and were told not to use Luna/Steadtler pencils because of the intensity of the colour. You could probably find something similar in art shops over there.
I have this tendency for my pencil strokes to merge into each other, which KS complained horribly about. :p Maybe you can leave a note on Constance's lj asking her advice on pencil colouring
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Things have...cleared a bit for now. Had a long talk with him (when Mom missed-call me and when I called back, she immediately passed the phone to him! Probably due to me trying to "escape" talking to him all this while...) and despite being a mini-lecture (he told me off for even THINKING for working for people - now I know his reason, despite the direct-to-the-point words), he's said the magic words:
If I want to continue studying, I can go ahead and take up the Illustration course I want. It's not about the money - It's about WHAT I want to do in life.
So...yeah. I think the conundrum's a bit solved now :)
From what I can get of an equation:
Taking up Illustration = I do what I love best + different direction from Dad's field + work solo (which I've wanted to do all this while)
I might most probably come round and go crash the Illo department a bit 'round next week (after task submission on that Tuesday). In the mean time, I'll see what the nice-lady-counsellor can say :D
.......for the first time in these few weeks, I've never felt this much relief. It's been a long week, and really, thanks for hearing me out all this while ^_______^ *salute!*
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