Steve War 1 Battle 3 - Intermission

Mar 25, 2012 01:42

Due to some confusion during this Steve War, we had to call a break to figure out some things. I will document the discussion as this discussion later lead to some rule changes in these wars.


Ven:
I'll honestly admit it
Doesn't Steve only CAPTURE people, and not POSSES them?
How did this suddenly become Steve possessing and ordering people around? It's just.. :/

=> Labc:

He does it mostly in combination. It depends on the RPer

=> Emma:

((Er... I accidentally deanoned during the first war and decided to work it into the narrative?

Sorry... *sweatdrops*))
=> Sot:

I wondered a bit about that too, but hey, I'm just going along with it.
=> Steve:

Vriska Serket. Mind controller from Homestuck. There IS a plot at work here.
=> Tina:

//Raises hand awkwardly...

My fault... I gave him the power while I was being Steve...

Ven:
WAIT GUYS
FROM THE PREVIOUS PAGE

Heather (hanhula) said: "Vriska had betrayed him, found a way to leave. The nations had been rescued.

The fandom had won.

As for Steve... he faded into nothingness, like the Roman Empire before him, defeated.

For now."

=> Kiki:

So wait, it's over?
==> Ven:

She said that there's another Steve running about though
I'm not sure
=> Labc:

Well, we got 1. Maybe. And another is running around. Maybe.

And don't tack on "For now."
=> Talon:

There's always multiple Steves.
Keeping up appearances is usually too much for one Steve.

Emma:
((So wait, how many people are playing Steve?

I am, but my Steve's possessed me... Again?

Steve!headcount?))

=> Steve:

(( i MuSt Be ThE oNlY sTeVe LeFt iT sEeMs. ))
==> Emma:

iT'S yOu AnD mE bOtH.

((I kind of meant the double brackets for OOC... so we probably shouldn't do the typing thing there. Sorry, just... don't want to confuse people.))

Kiki:
Okay, I just got back and I don't know what is what. Can we have a break and sort this out first? Because maybe most of the people who just joined in today want to join the fun if it's still going on.

=> Emma:

((Um, okay. Would you like the lowdown on my part of the plot?))
==> Kiki:

Just maybe explain what happened, what's going on, and where does it leave us now. Because the generals(?) look like they are despairing or something.
Sorry if I'm asking too much
===> Emma:

((xD It's okay.

Basically what's going on here is: Talconfire attempted to rescue England and America from the clutches of Steve. It failed and she got captured. I, given my experience being possessed by him, decided to invite him to possess me again, then I'd break out and free my friends. However, my attempts to use the same methods I did last time did not work. Now, Steve has done something and I can no longer speak. And he keeps getting into taunting matches with Talcon.))
=> Labc:

Most of us are lost too... Including all the ranked officers. Read some of Tina's excerpts, it helps a bit.
=> Steve:

(( i DoN't MiNd PaUsInG fOr EvErYoNe To CaTcH uP wItH tHe EvEnTs. ))
=> Talon:

Well... from what I know, I was injured in trying to rush in and save England who was mind controlled. Emma rushed in after me and got possessed by Steve. We've been sort of doing a whole banter deal so I'm not sure if more has happened since then.
Also France was recently saved.
And currently, Vriska, America, Canada, Russia and England are still under Steve's control.

Tina:
Should I go and collect up all my excerpts in an attempt to catch people up?
And maybe do bits of filler?

=> Labc:

Sure! It would help.

Sot:
(I'm back. What'd I miss?)

=> Labc:

Trying to clarify the storyline of ANOTHER Steve War. This time, I think it's slowing annoying and excluding everyone. Even the participants.
=> Talon:

After I post I kind of saw that the Steve agreed to pause it until everyone has caught up on details.
Unless there's a few more Steves around...
==> Sot:

Alright. I was going to answer you guys trying to cheer me up from my HBSoD, but I'll wait until you're ready to start up again.
=> Polka:

Welcome back!

Trying to sort out the Steve War, I think.

Fyn:
BACK FROM DINNER :D

So.....how dead is Steve?

=> Emma:

((Steve is on hiatus while we sort out our plotlines. *shrug*))
==> Fyn:

...WILLI BE ABLE TO FIND IT ON FF.NET TONIGHT? Cos like...ill be sleeping in 3ish hours..and I need something to read.
===> Emma:

Uh, maybe? Tina said something like that, but idk...

/really not an authority on such things

Marik:
(( /I can't even
Anyone wants to use this account, too?

/Ven, by the way ))

Talon:
BACK TO MY FANGIRLY TYPING.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY STEVES HERE HAVE AGREED TO PAUSE UNTIL PLOTTING HAS BEEN SORTED OUT.

SO IT'D BE HANDY IF EVERYONE POSTED WHAT THEY REMEMBER LAST GOING ON IN ONE SPOT SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO SEARCHING ALL OVER THE PLACE TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

I SUGGEST EVERYONE JUST RESPOND TO HERE WITH WHAT THEY REMEMBER LAST HAPPENING.

=> Emma:

STEVE HAD POSSESSED ME, HE WAS TALKING TO TALCON AKA. YOU AS WAS I, THEN I STOPPED TALKING.
=> Chelli:

I WAS TAUNTING STEVE AND BEING INJURED
=> Kiki:

I posted what I know and heard from others on the next page =/
==> Talon:

It's okay, I saw that. We can just get things sorted there instead because it's at the top of a page.
=> Sot:

I had a Heroic Bluescreen of Death and you and *checks* labc comforted me.
=> Tina:

FULL SUMMARY LINKS:

http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112400528#t112400528

Kiki:
Okay...so far I get is this so I'm posting it here so everyone can see what we've got so far...
-Another SW is happening after the one 30minutes or so ago.
-talonfire was injured after failing to save England (and America). Also in a taunting war with Steve.
-hypermmalawlz is possesed again (Emma, is she?).
-France is saved (check)
-some people (including me) do not get how much gifs we can post up and it might be letting people down that they're annoying others.
-America, Canada, Vriska and Russia is possesed and taken as hostage
-But I also remember shoting a giant gun blast at Steve when he tried to eat Canada though, so does that count as unresolved or something?

...Anything else? Sorry if I'm bothering others again!

=> Emma:

Tina did something... She realised she gave Steve the power to possess people, but somehow found out how to defeat him.

(I think she is currently off collecting her excerpts for a full plot debriefing?)
==> Kiki:

Is it something to do with Marik's Golden Rod? And who's Tina again? Sorry! o.o
===> Emma:

Uh, idk... It was just something she said in one of her snippets. Tina is tinabanina96; this person (the one with the Austria icon).
===> Tina:

YOU FORGOT ME *GASP*
//SHOT
Hello! I'm the general, the one with all the dramatic speeches and random fanfiction XD

WELCOME TO THE WAR

//SALUTES
====> Kiki:

Ah! *salutes* Sorry, mam'! I thought the name Tina was someone's real name and not a shortened user name! I am happy to join the war and assist with my magical guns, mam'!
=====> Tina:

Pffft it is my real name XD
======> Kiki:

Eh...*salutes higher* I am very sorry, mam'!
=> Talon:

Well it seems Steve is mostly indestructible aside from the power of love, friendship and magic. So I suppose the gun blast would have hit Steve but he'd not be hurt.

Admittedly, France was only saved because I rushed in while Steve was distracted. If anyone was wondering how that happened.
==> Kiki:

Hold on...I need to update again in the next post...because I heard France was saved because he saw...Germany's porn collection?

Does that mean my magical gun powers work? :D ...Wait, that's not really fair, is it? I mean the nations could fight Steve with their swords and weapons...unless they had the whole Higurashi fighting against fate strength with them and that's what we need!
===> Talon:

No. Steve said France died by seeing Germany's porn collection. Since nations can't die, I pretty much assumed that mean France fainted or something. Since Steve thought France died, he just didn't bother to stop me.

*shrugs* Well since the first Steve war, nothing seemed to hurt him. People just went with it since.
====> Kiki:

Ah, I see...so the point is we still retrieved France and he's recovering.
=====> Talon:

Yep. Unless any anon chooses to play as him.
Similarly with other nations. If anyone wants to anon as them, they can claim they broke out on their own.
The Steves can't force us not to play certain characters.
==> Chelli:

Talon... Are you saying we must defeat Steve with the power of friendship? *Prepares MLP*
===> Talon:

Yes. Yes I am.
He is constantly defeated by that. *is currently trying to get Emma un-possessed by it*
==> Sot:

The power of friendship and magic? *smirks and goes to get ready to spam My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic*
=> Labc:

I just recently leveled up from lvl.4 berserker explosion table flip mode to lvl.5 vid spam and basic table flip. So, no more exploding gifs. And sorry for the excess of it m(_ _)m
==> Kiki:

Labc, you sound really upset from what you done. Want to say out loud and work out something we can all agree on?
===> Labc:

Well, there was points I think I went overboard. Somehow made some kind of motivational explosion spam (It was a seme too, on top of that.) and it went on that point I had several pages of BOOMS (because I would then faint for a few pages afterward). I think it was either the previous page or the page before that I made it past lvl.4 (from fainting, I would devolve to lvl.3) and to lvl.5 and going back to standard table flips emotes and vid spam.

Tina:
OK! First Steve kind of randomly shows up around the same time I do (he's not me that really is a coincidence) so I don't really know what led to that point.

War Declaration: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112216720#t112216720

Then Kaiba and Marik And Bakura showed up.

Kaiba's Arrival: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112227984#t112227984

M & B's Arrival: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112253584#t112253584

Ven tries to fight Steve with Virtual Pets: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112261008#t112261008

Steve Kidnapped Mokuba, which explains Kaiba. Marik and Bakura showed up but then left again quickly.

Summary of Up To This Point: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112256400#t112256400 (Read Talon's bit)

HERE'S WHERE I'LL INTERSPERSE BETWEEN EXCERPTS AND SUMMARIES, YOU KNOW, FOR DEPTH:

The girl raises an eyebrow in reaction to General TalonIceFire's words.
"Ma'am... my commanding officer... No..." she whispers. "This is... this is horrific."
Slowly, she takes off the dressing gown, dropping it onto the floor in a violet heap to reveal a war worn, yet somehow brand new, military uniform, adorned with rows and rows of gold and silver medals and badges. One particular badge, in the shape of what seems to be a flower (rose to be exact) shines brighter then the rest.

"That's it Steve." she smiles, a kind, yet unsettling smile.
"This... this is war."

Canada's Kidnapping: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112270480#t112270480

Kaiba Leaves: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112274064#t112274064

M & B Leave: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112281488#t112281488

Then there was a mecha of Iceland. Then... Possessed!England informed us that France was dead...

"How... how dare they..."

She clenches her fist, removing something from her uniform. Her knuckles pale as she clutches it tightly, digging the item into her hand almost painfully.

"Oh god..." slowly, the General turns from her spot at the window. Her face is a mask, blank and unreadable,but there is a terrifying glint in her eyes.

"Troops..."-again, that creepy, almost psychotic smile appears- "We must rise up. Stay strong under this duress. The times are hard. Morale is low... We must not break!"

The sound of her voice echoes across the room as the gathered troops return to their own positions.

No one hears the tiny sob as she mourns the fallen nation of France while clutching the softly glimmering rose shaped medal.

BUT LUCKILY TALON HAD STORMED IN WHILE I WAS SOBBING AND SAVED FRANCE.

END PART 1 OF SUMMARY

=> Fyn:

....so...how many casualties have we got..?
==> Talon:

Me and Chelli have both been injured so far~
Injuries are voluntary so unless anyone else chooses to be injured in the war we may not see anymore casualties.
===> Fyn:

Yep, it sounds silly~ But I doubt even the Steves can force any of us to be injured.
=> Kiki:

I remember all this, because I was on FB and someone said we have to join the Steve War. So far so good.

Fyn:
...wait...so is the fandomly cannon fully charged yet..? I mean...we may as well plug it in if we have to wait lol :L or does it take AA batteries/the power of love, friendship and alpacas?

=> Cass:

I hope it's not alpacas, because we'd need fishie or taka for those.
=> Glasses:

It takes 5 pages to load with just by itself. :3
/is the creator in charge of the cannon
==> Fyn:

..ah well..doesn't concern me too much..WHEN DOES THE GAME UNPAUSE? I WANNA DO SOME CANNON FODDING >:O

Tina:
OK GUYS LET'S CONTINUE THE SUMMARY:

TALON'S HEROIC RESCUE OF FRANCE:

"YOUR GENERAL OF THE ARMY HAS JUST RECOVERED AND RECLOTHED FRANCE.
HE IS NOW IN THE INFIRMARY RECOVERING.
DON'T WORRY, I'M COMPLETELY FINE.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE BLOOD.
IT'LL HEAL.
THOUGH I MAY NEED TIME TO RECOVER FROM RECLOTHING FRANCE.
WHO KNEW HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS PUTTING PANTS ON SOMEONE WITH A... LARGE ROSE?" Calls the General of the Army.

For a moment - a mere millisecond- the mask slips. Relief seems to flood the Generals system, washing through her veins with it's warmth.

But what seems like ice water follows once the General brings the unstable mask back up. There were still so many... so many out there in danger of Steve. They had to keep fighting...

The war wasn't over because they had saved one person.

A TERRIBLE REALISATION:

A soldier rushes into the two generals' quarters.

"'"From (now on) I plan to take a ruthless attack and do my best"'

...HE'S FIGHTING STEVE OMG

HIMAPAPA IS FIGHTING AGAINST STEVE

...or... HE IS STEVE ;A;" cries hanhula.

The revelations is shocking... terrifying almost.

The General turns to look at the face of her commanding officer, but the other has gone to speak more with hanhula.

It couldn't... it couldn't be true...

Could it?

She doesn't want to believe but the seed of doubt has been planted. From then it would grow in her mind, always there, always the thought.

What if the one they loved the most, the one they would wait for forever, the whole reason they had all banded together in the first place... was also the one who was trying to destroy them?

TALON'S SACRIFICE:

"IF MY THEORY IS CORRECT, FRANCE WAS OUT COLD BECAUSE OF HIS FIGHT WITH ENGLAND.
IF THIS IS TRUE, THEN ENGLAND MUST BE WEAKENED FROM THEIR FIGHTING.
I WILL GO IN NOW AND RETRIEVE HIM WHILE I CAN."

The commanding officer of the Army says this in utter seriousness, her own benedictions strong.

"By yourself ma'am? Surely not!"

"TINA, I AM TRUSTING YOU TO KEEP CONTROL OF THE TROOPS WHILE I AM GONE."

She watches as the General of the Army rushes bravely behind enemy lines, towards the horrific monsters and terrified hostages. The finality of those words scare her.. but Talon is brave and strong.

"I... I'll try." she speaks softly, only to the rushing wind and dark grey skies.

Her face freezes and the mask of confidence becomes easier, if more soul-crushing to pull off.

Silently, she prays that the other general will return soon.

THEN WE DID SOME STUFF WITH RANKINGS. TALON CAN YOU RE POST ALL THE RANKINGS?

Right... here we started to lose... Steve outnumbered us... and informed us that we had lost someone: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112320144#t112320144

END PART 2

=> Cass:

You guys made a frikkin movie while I was gone. XD
==> Tina:

NOPE JUST ME AND MY NEED TO FANFIC EVERYTHING XD

Tina:
DIRECTLY AFTER THE PREVIOUS PART

LOSING PEOPLE TO POSSESSION/ DEFEAT ETC:

The General watches as the troops seem to fall into disarray.

The rumour mill works fast when everyone is packed together so tightly.

The word goes out that the enemy has taken another one of their own... but who?

She realizes that she has not been seen by the troops for almost 15 minutes. She starts to wonder... is it... could the one possessed by the enemy be-

"RETRIEVAL MISSION IS A FAILURE.
EVERYONE, GET THE HELL BACK TO THE BASE.
YOU NEED TO REGROUP. LEAVE ME."

Oh god... it's the voice of General Talon.

She looks out the window and sees a large crowd returning to base. She can just barely see Talon, so close to being mobbed.

No...no...no...no..no...

Ina frenzied rush, she runs out the door, yelling orders left and right.

"Don;t leave her... DON'T YOU DARE LEAVE HER!" she shouts, pushing through the now frenzied mob of soldiers. The crowd seems to part for her though, as she reaches the fallen army commander...

"I COULDN'T... COULDN'T GET ENGLAND OUT FAST ENOUGH.
AND AMERICA...
OH GOD.
STEVE HAS GOTTEN HIM TOO."

"General Talon... It.. it's not your fault." She tries hard to be strong, not let her voice shake at seeing the brave officer like that. "It's not any of our fault."

"It... it hurts so much. My arm..." General talon's loud, strong voice is amurmur now. Holding off emotions, the General calls for assistance. A medical team whips General Talon away as an officer calls for her.

"General Tina! There's been a crisis! The enemy... they're taking us all!"

She looks around. The battlefield is in ruins and the soldiers are stressed.

Chaos, complete chaos.

She sees that hanhula... Emma... they've both been taken. Major General Labc and Lieutenant General Ven are in the midst of continuing their desperate attacks, but in her heart... she knows that they are losing.

Losing.... No... No!

This is her fault... if only she had been a better leader...

She falls to her knees, sinking into the trodden mud in the spot where General Talon had collapsed.

She has to be strong... but somehow it just keeps getting harder.

BRINGING BACK THE MOTIVATION:

NO! NO! She will not let herself be beaten down by this! SHE IS THE GENERAL AND THIS IS WAR

"WAKE FANDOMLY!!!!!! WE WILL WIN!!!!!!!! WE WILL PERSEVERE!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE THE AWESOME HETALIA FANDOMLY!!!!!!!!!" Labc's battle cry fills her mind with a new confidence... a shaky, unstable confidence, but it's there none the less.

Slowly, she pulls herself up, dusting the mud from her uniform, pinning all her medals up straight.

Fixing her hair, the General smiles.

"You won't bring me down Steve... You can never make me fall..."

QUESTIONING THE POWER OF STEVE:

http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112348560#t112348560

HOW STEVE GOT HIS POSSESSION POWERS:

With the war going so... so... badly... she realised it was time for her to speak up.

Back when Steve had been nothing but a game... nothing but an identity to put on and discard as one saw fit, she had taken up the mantle.

She had not kept it for long... but her short time had been impactful. Shortly afterwards, Steve... the real Steve, had gained the ability to possess and control the minds of their army.

Just how had he gained that power?

It was her fault. In her game, in her fun, she had given it to him.

"SiLlY HuMaN. Do YoU nOt UnDeRsTaNd? My KiNd cAn inFlIcT ItS WiLl OnTo oThErS aNd InfLuEnCe tHeIr mInDs.

WhAt yOu tHiNk iS FoUr hAs jUsT BeEn MySeLf iN ThE FoRmS oF YoU FooLiSh hUmAnS"

Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.

IN all eventuality, this war was her fault... which is why she was fighting so hard to win it..

http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/28482.html?thread=109643586#t109643586

Hey Steve... see this? I know how to beat you now...

Kiki:
Okay, let's admit out loud. Who thinks the gifs are annoying in here and want them to stop or just limited (like 5 per page or only 1 in each thread)?

=> Chelli:

*Slowly raises hand* Sorry guys, but it's killing my computer
=> Cass:

I should be obvious. But I'll go soon, so if I'm the only one for now, have fun but remember that other members who come on later might also be against it.
ETA: Oh, looks like I'm not the only one right now. Sorry, kiki.
=> Emma:

I prefer them limited, so not like, more than 3 at a time or so... But I think gifs have their place here. *shrugs*
=> Labc:

Yeah... *major offender* Probably 1 per poster (or a per page limit).
=> Polka:

One in each thread? Don't you think that's a bit too much?

I don't really think that gifs are annoying; it's when they stretch the page too much that scrolling it up and down makes it difficult.

Talon:
Currently rankings written up.

General of Army - Me
General, second in command - Tina
Lieutenant Generals - Ven and Commander Freddy
General Majors - Labc and Chelli
Brigadier General - Rabbit
Colonels - Emma and Sotno (whose currently questioning her rank)

The ranks are here if anyone wants one. But we're not taking anymore Generals, since we now have enough. Colonels and below ranks are still open though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army#Personnel

=> Fyn:

I WANNA BE CANNON FODDER <3
==> Talon:

Go ahead soldier XD as long as you're happy with it.
=> Kiki:

Don't know what I can be ._. I only know I'm a Magical Girl who can shoot Magical Guns when filled with Red or Blue Truths Hopes and Faith. What can I do with that anyway?
==> Talon:

The ranks are just for fun~
Also it gives us a kind of "in character" responsibility.
Such as I constantly get annoyed with Steve kidnapping and possessing the troops. And Tina always trying to pull up strong for the others when the going gets tough.
Also it's just a cool title like Commander Freddy's usual username XD
===> Kiki:

Uh huh...well, I suck at role playing anyway XD

Tina:
PART ONE:http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112387216#t112387216
PART TWO:http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112395408#t112395408
PART THREE: http://hetalia-events.livejournal.com/29072.html?thread=112397968#t112397968

That brings us to now!

=> Labc:

Thank you General Tina!
=> Chelli:

Thanks General!
=> Kiki:

Thanks, General!

...But you didn't mention the others that doesn't have a rank or just joined in...
==> Tina:

That's because I haven't written about them yet :)
It's only just a brief summary of all the major sort of happenings for all the people who just joined so they can kind of figure out what's going on. And some of the ranks are ones I didn't know about yet
I'll do a full/better one later on :)
===> Kiki:

Oh, okay, thanks! :D

Labc:
Since this is Steve War 3... Actually, this is the first time in all of the Steve Wars that we now have a cohesive timeline! (*o*)

Very BIG thank you to General Tina, for taking such meticulous detail!

=> Tina:

You're absolutely welcome

//BLAME THE FANFICER IN ME
==> Fyn:

PUT LIKE..AN ENTIRE STORY ABOUT THIS ON FF I WILL WORSHIP YOU. PLEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEE D: IT'S A PLOT BUNNY NON?

I SERIOUSLY NEED SOMETHING TO READ T.T
===> Tina:

I PLAN TO DOCUMENT THE WHOLE OF SW1 AND SW3
//MISSED SW2
IT WILL GO ON MY FANFIC ACCOUNT AS SOON AS I UPDATE MY OTHER FICS ORZ
====> Fyn:

HURRRYYYY I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL SURVIVE LONG ENOUGH...with the threat of steve and all..FOR ALL I KNOW IT MAY BE THE LAST FIC WE ALL READ :')

Talon:
Speak up now if something still confuses you.

Also we need to discuss the extent of Steve's immunities, because apparently some people are starting to get annoyed with how difficult he's become to fight.

=> Fyn:

I'm confused about his identity...is it like...a bunch of anons? Or is it just one person? AND DON'T GIVE AWAY THE ACTUAL IDENTITY LOL B) THE ELEMENT OF SURPRISE IS AWESOME.
==> Talon:

It's normally a bunch of anons (because there being one Steve would be too much of a demand for them to reply to every person here). However there's currently only one anon Steve left.
==> Emma:

It's a few people, most of whom are anon - except me, being possessed, which kind of springs from something that happened in the first war (accidental deanon, and then "eh, fuck it, let's work it into the plot.)
=> Kiki:

Yeah, since when was Steve was immune to all human attacks and is only hurt by magic, friendship, faith, trust? No offense to all, but I thought Steve was weak in the forehead and human weapons like guns, swords, pipes/sword cane, human fists, axes and magic can harm him. And I don't most of us swing by the whole magical friendship thing too well (unless it's something like Higurashi where they combined their powers to defeat the endless cycle...AND THAT'S WHAT HETAONI WAS ABOUT! JOINING TOGETHER, KNOWING YOU'RE NOT ALONE AND EVERYONE USE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE, PHYSICAL OR MAGICAL POWERS OR WEAPONS, TO DEFEAT STEVE!)
==> Talon:

Well it was just in the first Steve war.
All the anons that played him kept not being affected by any attack.
Although probably because when the war started, most of the people who were in it hadn't seen HetaOni.
People apparently just followed it?
===> Kiki:

...no offence again, but I'm starting to think we should have limits on how godmodding we all are, both Steves and us...
Because it's not really fair when people who doesn't know HetaOni can just make all the Steves tough while the ones who knows them well enough (*points to myself* one of the HetaOni fanfic writer) sees that all thier original attacks from HetaOni seems useless, THEN the ones who don't know it still uses only simple things like friendship and such. Steves can revive or can come in great numbers, we don't even know how many anons are there so they can play. Hey, they can control one who army until we defeat the leader of that army and the one playing as the anon goes back to playing on our side.

Sorry if I rant too much.
====> Talon:

That's okay.
I guess it is strange if you actually know how Steve is supposed to be.
So we'll try to figure this out.
Though I think a lot of the invulnerability comes in because with so many fans constantly attacking Steve, it'd be hard to keep the alien around for more than a page worth of attacks. We'll still try to find some middle ground though.
=====> Kiki:

Hmm...how about this *trying to help*, you and the others are Generals, right? Those without ranks are soldiers. Instead of just pep talk, trying to stay strong, and sacrificing themselves and let themselves get brainwashed, you guys order us around a little. Say like some of us should distract, others go on rescue missions, and the rest attacks the Things. Plot twist can be added by others and the first one who comments on it will follow his/her route to bring the war to a climax.
======> Talon:

Tina and I've attempted that before. Our problem has a lot to do with not everyone is going to see it.
But yes we can do with some strategy. We've done it at least with "While Steve is distracted, bust in and take the hostages". So I can certainly do a bit more of strategy if you like ^^
=======> Kiki:

Can you ask rikkaidai_fuji the next time s/he post up a new entry in here, make sure there are rules on RP for everyone else to see (like the rules of how big a picture can be, how this should be played, no godmods, and just standing there being all strong and just attacking, TALK ABOUT PLANS WITH EVERYONE! DON'T JUST WORK ALONE LIKE ITALY!). Also, say something about how much you can post pics and gifs in a comment, because I really want that to be fair for everyone XD
========> Talon:

Sure, I will ask about that ^^ But first I think some rules on Steve may be in order too so Rikkai can post that up and it'll stop people from going over board with the god mode.

Currently trying to get people to work things out on the other page on how limited Steve's abilities should be.
=========> Kiki:

Okay, I'll go over to that page now. Sorry for bothering you.
==========> Talon:

It's okay ^^
I've been going back and forth to keep up.
====> Labc:

That's actually a good point. Although HetaOni tropes aside, there should be a noted point that picspam of slave's faves had some effect.

All we're sure of it's Love and Friendship, and his forehead that are the definitive weaknesses.
=====> Kiki:

Hmm, well, your bombing skills can be used as your final attack but only can use it once in a while and you need to rest after that XD Like you are an assasin bomber who bombs the Steves once the rescue mission is successful.
=> Emma:

Herm... I think he's pretty invulnerable to guns and other such physical weapons. He is, however, vulnerable to love and the fandomly bond... He's stronger against me when possessing me, though, because he learnt things about me when he first possessed me, and learnt how I escaped...

(...Actually, I am now quite confused as to how I shall get out...)
==> Tina:

I helped save you last time through the power of freindship... but IDK bout this time
===> Talon:

He's harder this time. I keep trying the power of fandomly talk, but it doesn't work! DX

Ven:
/Is back
/Read the summary of the War

... Are we continuing now?

=> Labc:

Just sorting out storyline details before proceeding, it seems.

Emma:
Erm, if we're about to restart the Steve War... I would like to join in, and finish my plotline, but I do have to go to bed in like ten minutes (I will go to school eventually, dammit!)

...Talcon, since you were my major interaction partner... you think you could conclude the plotline without me?
=> Emma:

...

*throws apples at seme curse*

Where did these apples come from?
==> Chelli:

What apples? Those are lemons! Mmm lemons *nosebleed*
=> Talon:

Sure, I can conclude the plotline without you.
Both my talk and your fighting against Steve forces him out... and it weakens you so that you need to rest in the infirmary. Would that be okay? (could also throw in Steve trying to use you to hurt me, but you wanting to save me gave you what you needed to kick Steve out too) Just in case you're not around when we resume.
==> Emma:

That sounds great. <3

Tina:
Goodnight All! I have choir at 7:50am tomorrow and it's already midnight. I leave you tonight with the General's goodnight message.

The general watches out the window of her quarters. The night is dark and the moon is out, basking the bettered battlefield in a soft, almost non existent silver glow.

The army is so at peace. A temporary truce has been called (who knew monster's could have reason?) but the war is not over.

Reinforcements had arrived earlier, but it still seemed a little uneven. In the morning, they would discuss strategy.

But for now, she was tired, and needed to rest.

After all, it's hard to play mind games when your mind won't respond.

Tina:
I'VE BEEN CAPTURED BY STEVE K?

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SOMEONE EXPLAIN IT IN AN OVERDRAMATIC WAY, JUST LIKE I WOULD... TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED To ME AND I'LL WRITE IT UP TOMORROW :)

REMEMBER.. I'M PLAYING MIND GAMES WITH STEVE< AND CLEARLY HE DOESN'T LIKE THAT

//HUGS ALL

Talon:
Okay so, with the whole deal of people getting annoyed with how godmode Steve is, let's now try to reasonably fix up his abilities and limitations.

So post here exactly the traits about Steve you'd like to fight against (combat wise, not personality wise) and then we'll discuss on what's the most reasonable limitations and abilities to give him.

Just remember... we need Steve to survive more than a page worth's of explosive attacks from the fans. So try not to push for a "vulnerable as a regular person".

=> Sot:

So will there be some kind of explanation for this in-"story"? Maybe a weakening spell from the other spellcasters of Hetalia?
==> Talon:

Probably not.
Things are getting confusing enough to figure out a Steve with limitations to stop getting people annoyed with the godmodding.
Bit hard to even figure out how he got caps in the rp.
=> Ven:

Normally Steve would only "Capture" some of the people and keep them in a "Prison".
And perhaps he would do frequent attacks on us, and for the "eating" thing, well, he can threaten us to do that, but no eating. It's just a bit.. Disturbing imo.
==> Talon:

Well he hasn't actually eaten anyone. (I don't think unnamed people who don't really exist count as anyone) So he really has only just threatened us without doing anything.
===> Fyn:

He ate me once with his belly button but I respawned..
=> Fyn:

...eh..I think he should stay this way. Something like war of the worlds. Invincible EXCEPT for when pitted against a weakness.
==> Talon:

We're just currently getting a problem of people being annoyed with this invincible Steve since he originally wasn't. Just hoping to work on some general census of limits so we're not alienating everyone from the wars.
=> Kiki:

Steves weakness is in the forehead, yes, BUT there ARE an army of them, and he is not stupid. Just because he is a monster doesn't make him have no brain. Everyone can attack as much as they want and even they lost all thier arms and legs, he can still move. Think of them as an army of big, smart zombies.
Be creative as well, make him survive but as long as their foreheads don't get hurt, they're still alive, even if blinded, muted, death, imobile, whatever! And there are other types of Steves. Look up part 13 of HetaOni, and the ending parts of Ao Oni to get some ideas on what your Steve army looks like. Bird!Steves, coackarooch!Steves, Toger!Steve, Domokun!Steve! See what I mean? I hope it helps~
==> Talon:

Actually it does ^^
===> Kiik:

...Wait, so I'm not being an annoying girl to you which you could choose to ignore? o.o WHoop! I'm feeling good tonight!
====> Talon:

Nope you're not! I do appreciate the info, but I was trying to also not suck out the crackiness these Steve Wars originally had for people too.
It can be hard compromising~

Rach:
...

STEVE GOT AMERICA AND ENGLAND???

Fyn:
And thus,the Kingdom of Comm enters into an era of peace; although memories of the battles continue to linger amongst the villagers' dreams, the threat is no longer imminent. Objects of former importance like the Fandom Cannon are stored away, forgotten like many of those who fought and never made it back. Never would anyone have thought that it would need to be taken out again..nobody would have thought the titles bestowed upon the people, influential ones such as general and lieutenant, would ever need to be uttered again. These names, in a civilian's mind, were only spoken of in legends long forgotten. Nobody expected them to be uttered again, no. Neither did they expect distasteful words like Steve to ever be mentioned again..but alas.

Somewhere in this galaxy....somewhere....the menace so feared by those it invades sleeps...preparing for the next wave...preparing for what may very well be it's final wave...

Talon:
So we'll go with the HetaOni canon - forehead is his weakness. He can be hit anywhere else on the body, but if it's not the forehead, he can't be stopped. But not weaksauce attacks at it, like flicking his forehead. He needs a good stab with a knife, bullet shot, or stupefy to the head.

Much like with anons, there's more than one Steve. They just all happen to look alike (unless anyone wants to invoke the Steve!birds and such). We just can't tell them apart otherwise.

Cause they're smart aliens with advance tech, the Steves always have a way of communicating to each other even when we can't see it. So it justifies why a Steve may know so much about our fandom.

How is this so far? I do credit Kiki for giving me most of the ideas. Can we get some agreement that this is okay so far?

=> Kiki:

I like it, sounds good...also note that Steve can BLOCK attacks XD Like fling us away from it with one massive arm swing.
=> Sot:

I'm fine with that. What about the mindslaves? Are we going to take away those too?
==> Talon:

The mindslaves were by Vriska. And her canon ability is to mind control others. Also that she's an alien, one of about 13-15 years, she's still young enough to be talked into doing it.
===> Sot:

Oh, okay. *goes to look at her at the Homestuck character page on TV Tropes*
=> Ven:

Yeah, it sounds good~ C:
=> Chelli:

I like it :D

Talon:
So Steve is supposed to kidnap people. That's pretty much the only thing we've got agreement on.
However we have other problems:

1. Steve eating humans. How many people actually mind this? And to what extent are you willing to let the "eating humans" thing go?

2. Possession. Should we keep it or get rid of it? Or would anyone mind to changing it so Steve is using alien tech to control minds (so you can only be affected once kidnapped)?
( I should point out this time we had Vriska, who can canonically control minds, on side with Steve so it's justified this war )

=> Ven:

1. The best is just to let it threaten us that it'll eat us.

2. I don't mind Steve only being able to possess people once it kidnaps them.
=> Kiki:

1. It could threaten us, but it will get old.

2. Posses people, sure...but please don't make it all like "Oh I cannot resist it I'm sorry I'm on thier side D:" moments please. At least make it when that happens they lost thier concience because your mind WOULD NOT WORK while you're being possessed.
==> Talon:

Well how was the possession Emma/Hyperemmalawlz was? She normally spoke as Steve, but had slips where she spoke as herself from her fighting his control. Was that alright?

Talon:
Don't worry Ven, I saw your reply before, so you don't have to reply to this again.

So Steve is supposed to kidnap people. That's pretty much the only thing we've got agreement on.
However we have other problems:

1. Steve eating humans. How many people actually mind this? And to what extent are you willing to let the "eating humans" thing go?

2. Possession. Should we keep it or get rid of it? Or would anyone mind to changing it so Steve is using alien tech to control minds (so you can only be affected once kidnapped)?
( I should point out this time we had Vriska, who can canonically control minds, on side with Steve so it's justified this war )

=> Faerie:

1. I don't really mind the eating people thing, myself.
2. I think alien tech would work.
(WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN I NEED TO KNOOOOOW)
==> Talon:

Just a few pages ago. We had Steve War 3 but we had to pause because the newcomers wanted to catch up on the events. Then we ran into problems of some HetaOni fans getting annoyed with the non-canon abilities and godmodding. I'm just trying to work things out to make Steve less of a Marty-Stu but still not so easy to defeat so we can be as cracky as we want.
===> Faerie:

Ah, I see. /goes to read

Talon:
Sudden thought... is the Steve even still here?

=> Ven:

I don't think so?
=> Steve:

tHe LaSt StEvE iS sTiLl HeRe.
I'm just lurking around until we decide if we're continuing this war or not.
==> Talon:

Oh god. I'm sorry about making you wait around so long.
I hope we're not keeping you up with indecisiveness.

Faerie:
/starts reading Steve war that literally started the page after she left
...why is the Vriska talking like Gamzee/Steve?

=> Talon:

Vriska is being used by Steve to control the nations it seems.
==> Faerie:

Aaaaaaaah, okay~

Talon:
Just got confirmation from our last Steve that they'll still be around to continue the Steve Wars.

So if you want to continue the epic battle, JUST VOTE HERE ON THIS ONE THING.

How many of you mind the whole Steve eating human thing? Specify if you feel you need to.

Steve War can continue next thread if I get enough votes here

=> Cure:

I would prefer he only threatened to eat us~!! ^^;
=> Chelli:

*votes with both arms* Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss~!

Xaylu:
WHY DO I ALWAYS FALL ASLEEP
WHEN I'M PRETENDING TO BE ASLEEP
DAMN YOU COMFORTABLE BED

I disappeared yesterday, sorry~ What happened with the Steve Mind Slaves in the end? And how is everyone doing? Ü

=> Talon:

We had to pause the Wars due to some complications. It's almost sorted now and our last Steve is still around, so we will continue in the new thread I believe.
=> Cure:

Welcome back~!!
We're gonna start an other Steve War in the next thread, I think~! ^^;

Talon:
So we'll go with the HetaOni canon - forehead is his weakness. He can be hit anywhere else on the body, but if it's not the forehead, he can't be stopped. But not weaksauce attacks at it, like flicking his forehead. He needs a good stab with a knife, bullet shot, or stupefy to the head.

Much like with anons, there's more than one Steve. They just all happen to look alike (unless anyone wants to invoke the Steve!birds and such). We just can't tell them apart otherwise.

Cause they're smart aliens with advance tech, the Steves always have a way of communicating to each other even when we can't see it. So it justifies why a Steve may know so much about our fandom.

As with possession, he does it with alien tech. So you need to have been kidnapped before you can be first possessed by Steve (and those of you who do decide to be possessed, please try to do this decently, thanks~). The power of Friendship or Love may help to get the person to fight the possession. However doing it to the Steves themselves will not damage them.

Due to votes, the eating people thing is still on (there were more people okay with it than not). However, can we have the Steves be mindful that some people do get squicked by it, so don't nom on anyone unless you're SURE they're okay with it.

I do credit Kiki for giving me most of the ideas.

This seems okay so far? No major complaints?

Faerie:
/clings to new thread
Here's hoping Vriska doesn't pop up and start killing people~
oh btw for everyone who wants to know Vriska actually can't control humans very well. Something about how far away we are from her and how different our brains are from hers. I don't know if this applies to countries, though.

=> Talon:

Thanks for telling us that~ Handy to those of us not into Homestuck.

Faerie:
So wait, we had a Vriska, Marik & Bakura, Kaiba, and Sober Gamzee?
The crossovers :,D
I love this fandom~

Faerie:
HEY GUYS
IF VRISKA APPEARS AGAIN
WE SHOULD JUST WHIP OUT A JOHN EGBERT ANON
SHE CANT HURT HIM CUZ SHE'S TOO FOND OF HIM
RED FEELINGS AND ALL THAT
(red feelings are the troll equivalent of liking someone like how humans think of like/love)

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