Re: "it's the economy, stupid"rasilioMay 2 2011, 19:29:33 UTC
Yes, but to actually successfully attack him on the Economy you actually have to have better economic ideas than him. To date the arch conservative wing of the Republicrat party is too busy worrying about grandstanding for their base on economic matters to actually have a fiscal plan that they can fight with in a general election.
You can't take tax cuts off the board, You have to actually cut military spending, you can't even mention ridiculous crap like NPR or Planned parenthood funding and you have to be willing to tell your followers that you're gonna touch their medicare.
The Bachman's Gingrich'es and Palins of the world have never been able to do that.
Re: "it's the economy, stupid"a_new_machineMay 2 2011, 19:59:57 UTC
The funny thing is, I'm kinda liberal-ish. At least on some things (I like SocSec and Medicare, and the Obama HCR). But I think that you really need to prioritize, and at the moment, our priorities are all fucked up. Or rather, we have too many equal priorities, and rather than simply allocating our spending as 100% between them all, we've decided to spend 100% on each priority.
Re: "it's the economy, stupid"a_new_machineMay 2 2011, 22:48:48 UTC
Eh, the market argument is unlikely to work on me. I for one think that there are some things more important than efficient markets, and that in today's technological climate, health insurance will not be delivered in sufficient quantity for a large percentage of people were it deregulated.
Re: The same economy you market fundamentalists broke? a_new_machineMay 3 2011, 04:53:34 UTC
Well, I was technically wrong, but only just. According to this, the recession ended in June of 2009. By that time, about $50 billion (less than 10% of the total stimulus) had been spent, most of it in the preceding 30 days - that's a *really* rapid impact if you really think the stimulus caused it.
The collective you, obviously.squidb0iMay 3 2011, 04:46:38 UTC
You and your ilk, market fundamentalists, who claim to crave a strong economy and dollar yet do everything you can to cause the opposite. Who claim to love capitalism yet do everything you can to break it.
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You can't take tax cuts off the board, You have to actually cut military spending, you can't even mention ridiculous crap like NPR or Planned parenthood funding and you have to be willing to tell your followers that you're gonna touch their medicare.
The Bachman's Gingrich'es and Palins of the world have never been able to do that.
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A rational fiscal conservative. I... I thought I was alone on this.
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At least in this neck of the woods, you're not as alone :) But I get the feeling this isn't representative overall.
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Oh how I wish that were true.
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That economy?
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It's difficult to say that liberals or Obama "saved" the economy.
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I can't tell if you're being silly and making fun of moonbats or being serious.
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