Communist Propaganda At Immigration Protest

[dreadfulpenny81]

This is video from a protest against SB 1070 that took place in Atlanta, Georgia on May 1, 2010:

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When is Nancy Pelosi going to decry the use of Swastikas at this event? When are Democrats going to speak out against the comparisons to the KKK

Comments

[mijopo]

Suppose I were a skinhead and argued for white supremacy and that a small group of Jews control the world banking system and that Jews are vermin. Would you think it acceptable for someone to denounce me as being comparable to the Nazis or would you argue "I don't agree with people making comparisons between mijopo and the Nazi's because it's simply stupid. mijopo isn't killing millions of people in the name of ethnic or racial cleansing

[meus_ovatio]

Or we could just skip the Nazi-comparison meme and make direct moral arguments for our positions.

[qnetter]

Why? It's useful. All politics is emotional as well as logical. "Identity checking reduces the friction toward deeper discrimination" is a powerful moral argument; Nazi Germany serves as a logically and emotionally potent illustration.

[meus_ovatio]

Because it sets up a false moral standard, and that if we are "not like the Nazis", then we are ok.

[qnetter]

False in what way? I'm sure I don't agree. (Though "the more unlike Nazis, the better, all others being equal" seems like a pretty valid statement.)

[meus_ovatio]

False in the sense that Nazism is the standard by which to judge ourselves, of course.

[qnetter]

It is *A* standard. Who says there's only one? "Not like the Nazis" is one of many good standards that can be applied all at once.

[mijopo]

Really, who has ever made that argument, explicitly or implicitly?

[meus_ovatio]

It is the entire assumption surrounding every single argument about whether or not Group X is "like the Nazis".

[mijopo]

Really, those arguing that Group X are like the Nazis believe that any group that is not like the Nazis are okay?

[meus_ovatio]

No really, the people that are arguing against them "being like the Nazis" are arguing such that if their argument is successful, then they are ok and have defended against the charge.

Seriously, it is why people bring it up in the first place. Just look at the civil rights movements: people who work to thwart civil-rights always stake the discussion on whether or not things "are like slavery". Is it like slavery? No? Well then I guess there isn't a problem!

[mijopo]

I think you missed my point, maybe I wasn't clear enough. It could be useful to compare to the Nazis because it illuminates/reminds us of the potentially horrifying results of despicable beliefs and philosophies.

[mijopo]

You may be right. My point was that person needn't be actually "killing millions of people in the name of ethnic or racial cleansing", as the OP seemed to be suggesting, in order for a comparison to be illuminating and legitimate.

[mijopo]

For which particular comparison?