Great Green North

[dv8nation]

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[allhatnocattle]

I ride my motorcycles at least once a month for the last ten years. Not sure how folks in Arizona can wear appropriate ride gear in that oven outside. It's 20cel/70F and I'm dying in this heat.

[anfalicious]

Heh. It's been around fifteen C here for the last week and I'm already complaining about the freezing cold :P This is why I'm moving North (where it's warm).

[sandwichwarrior]

I think something like this might only be workable in the US if series lobbyist reforms were enacted in addition to more government encouragement of "green logging"

I'm kind of curious as to what you mean by "lobbyist reforms", remember that Greenpeace and the Sierra Club are "lobbyists" too.

[allhatnocattle]

This isn't peace. This is a truce. I don't trust those hippies to keep the peace forever.

For the forestry sector business has been down for decades. Now with recycling and our new paperless computer society (cough) demand is down. And then USA (largest nation/customer) not living up to NAFTA and subsidizing their forestry has been very hard on Canadian forestry. There isn't the demand for pulp or wood products like before. Pulp, paper and softwood mills have been shutting down.

[mijopo]

That is good news, thanks for posting, but before we strain anything patting Canada on the back, let's remember how they're thumbing their noses at the Kyoto Protocol, downplaying environmental issues for the G20 summit and have been doing untold environmental degradation while pulling oil out of the tar sands.

[tridus]

The only difference between the current governments kyoto policy and the old governments kyoto policy is that now they're honest about not doing anything. In the past they did what a lot of other countries are doing: talk about meeting targets with no realistic plan to do so.

[allhatnocattle]

Not sure I understand how tarsands is degrading environment. It's a huge open pit mine that is eventually put back the way it was found. What part is the degrading part?

[mijopo]

Wow, dude, really? We've had this exact discussion before:

http://community.livejournal.com/canpolitik/593615.html?thread=18985679#t18985679

according to the admitrted biased Appalachian Hardwood Manufacturers, Inc.,

[caerfrli]

""About one-third of the United States -- 728 million acres -- is covered with trees. That's about 70 percent of the forest land that existed when Columbus discovered America. And the amount is growing.
In fact, we have more trees today that we had 70 years ago. Scientists estimate that America's forest land contain some 230 billion trees --- around 1,000 for each person. And more trees are being planted each year. On the nation's commercial forest land, net annual growth exceeds removals through harvesting by an impressive 31 percent each year. And the amount of wood in our nation's forests continues to increase. We have added 28 million cubic feet of wood since 1977."

Re: according to the admitrted biased Appalachian Hardwood Manufacturers, Inc.,

[geezer_also]

There you go, trying to confuse the issue with facts.

(facts to a liberal are like kryptonite to superman) (not original, but I like it :D)

Re: according to the admitrted biased Appalachian Hardwood Manufacturers, Inc.,

[dv8nation]

I'm pretty sure it's conservatives who get all weak in the knees at facts. Try Politifact.com sometime.

And the number of trees doesn't go hand in hand with environment groups and the corps actually working together.

Re: according to the admitrted biased Appalachian Hardwood Manufacturers, Inc.,

[geezer_also]

Facts have never really bothered me, so either I'm not a "true" conservative, or what is more likely, If I'm proved wrong I'm willing to admit it. By the way which of the facts mentioned above are wrong?