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luvdovz January 1 2017, 10:45:19 UTC
By killing Karlov, ISIS may have hoped to sever the alliance between Russia and Turkey

Well, ISIS has failed. We talked about this here.

There won't be any battle of Russia against Turkey. Russia has used the murder of their diplomat to extort concessions from Turkey on the Syrian issue. The ceasefire agreement that both Russia and Turkey brokered was signed a few days after this assassination, which shows there were no consequences, apart from Russia gaining the upper hand at the table and ending up in the stronger position.

If ISIS really wanted to hurt Russia, they would've organized terrorist acts on Russian territory. They haven't.

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ivankon January 1 2017, 11:12:00 UTC
> they would've organized terrorist acts on Russian territory

They tried recently but failed (if believe FSB)

This murder should be CIA and Obama to “divide and conquer”. I think this most probable.
Second possible purpose is legitimate NATO intervention to Syria

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johnny9fingers January 1 2017, 12:07:30 UTC
I understand that English isn't your first language, so please forgive me if I mistake your meaning.

This murder should be CIA and Obama to “divide and conquer”. I think this most probable.

If by this you mean that the CIA and Obama organised the assassination of the Russian Ambassador on Turkish soil to "divide and conquer" something (the Russian-Turkish "alliance" perhaps?) this seems a trifle unlikely after the film of the murder and the assassin. Divide and conquer what though? Syria? I'm a bit confused here.

Second possible purpose is legitimate NATO intervention to Syria

Well, given the fact that NATO has avoided becoming involved up to now (unlike Russia) this seems an argumentum tu quoque rather ahead of and divergent to the facts.

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ivankon January 1 2017, 12:14:57 UTC
> this seems a trifle unlikely after the film of the murder and the assassin

Apply this to yourself reasoning

> NATO has avoided becoming involved up

if they avoided there would not be any of their ships, planes and their puppet "rebels"

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johnny9fingers January 1 2017, 13:03:45 UTC
This divide and conquer stuff is a bit much.

It's not as if NATO was marching into the Ukraine. Or even had made significant deployments in Syria, unlike Russia; unless you are claiming that Turkey, as a member of NATO, has deployed its troops. In which case any Turkish alliance outside NATO divides NATO, and you have your eye to the wrong end of the telescope.

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