A couple of questions on ad hoc policy

Dec 05, 2016 10:22

Okay, I get it, Trump is basking in his glory from scoring an early win on his promise to keep US jobs at home. He has talked Carrier into staying in Indiana rather than running off to Mexico for profit - which has earned him applause by locals. And some raised eyebrows from both libertarians and the business itself. The issue with such individual ( Read more... )

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mahnmut December 5 2016, 11:37:13 UTC
You reap what you sow. That's all I have to tell America right now.

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johnny9fingers December 5 2016, 13:57:48 UTC
It's not America reaping it's own harvest the rest of the world is worried about, it is more about how many adjoining fields, or even non-contiguous fields, are left with burnt stubble.

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oportet December 5 2016, 14:11:09 UTC
Maybe our diplomatic procedures need to be reexamined....

Our leaders haven't called their leaders in forty years, but in the same period we've sold them around $45 billion worth of weapons?

I can see where doing both, or doing neither makes sense. I could also understand phone calls without arms deals. But arms deals without phone calls... what were Obama, W, Clinton, HW, Reagan, and Carter thinking? Did they just assume a phone call with Taiwan would piss off China more than selling them missiles and helicopters and tanks and shit? (even if they ended up being correct, it never struck anyone as backwards?)

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dreamville_bg December 5 2016, 14:44:31 UTC
What about the Carrier case. Should government change the way it interacts with the market as well?

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oportet December 5 2016, 15:00:41 UTC
Incentives for staying and disincentives for leaving would work short term - but like you said, in the long run - probably not. Unless they have a plan for when it goes wrong - I'd say either don't do it, or don't announce individual deals publicly (will that ever be an option with him?) and give other companies ideas on how to work the system.

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garote December 5 2016, 21:01:55 UTC
It's very hard to push through all the bluster and bullshit storming at us from news sources about this deal.
In fact, the sheer level of bluster and bullshit is prompting me to disengage with it completely as a source of any meaningful policy decisions or precedent. The negotiations have been brewing for at least a year, without any input from Trump. If Trump hadn't been elected the deal would have still gone through. Now suddenly it's in our faces 24-7 like it means something about him. What a farce.

This is a small-potatoes bit of pork-barrel negotiation, like happens every month in this country. There is no precedent, there is NO POLICY, there is no hand-wringing or shouting to be done. Fuck it. Fuck the whole thing.

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abomvubuso December 5 2016, 14:54:07 UTC
Ah, the magic wand phone approach. Because that's how you reform entire industries.

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luvdovz December 5 2016, 21:27:01 UTC
Trump sure is saving jobs - look at all the wonders he's been doing for comedians' and cartoonists' jobs so far.

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policraticus December 6 2016, 04:44:24 UTC
Would these hurt America in the long run, rather than help it ( ... )

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garote December 6 2016, 06:12:07 UTC
"being a tone-deaf clod" is not "negotiating from strength", even if it is somehow a Bene-Gesserit-style wheels-within-wheels operation or whatever. Give me eight more years of No Drama Obama thank you very much.

Oh well....

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policraticus December 6 2016, 17:14:17 UTC
No Drama Obama

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garote December 6 2016, 20:56:43 UTC
How do you suppose El Presidente Trump would have handled that?

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