Comments | talk_politics: Feeding the troll

ddstory in talk_politics

Feeding the troll

Oct 11, 2015 20:28

The Europeans are the only ones to blame for the situation they have found themselves in with the refugee crisis, that was one of the points that Turkish president Erdogan made during his meeting with the EU. And he may have a point, because Europe had long ignored the drama with the millions of Syrians fleeing a war that has been raging for years ( Read more... )

turkey, europe, immigration

Comments 7

luvdovz October 12 2015, 06:41:32 UTC

Well, without Turkey's cooperation, Europe's effort to find any solution to the refugee crisis is doomed. Erdogan is both in the strong position here, and in the disadvantaged position of being on the front-line.

By the way, the huge terror attack in Ankara from the other day awfully smells of false flag. It's just a bit too convenient that a rally against Turkey's intervention in Syria gets drowned in blood, and the attack is instantly blamed on the Islamic State. Smells very much of the post-9-11 situation. Someone desperately wants war.

htpcl October 12 2015, 07:10:56 UTC

I expect the EU to change its tune regarding Turkey's integration prospects, now that they're practically at the mercy of Erdogan's whims.

ddstory October 12 2015, 07:11:50 UTC

You mean "we" are at his mercy. Because your country is next in line on the refugees' path.

htpcl October 12 2015, 07:15:04 UTC

While that's true, it's notable that the vast majority of Syrian refugees, when asked why don't they just stay in Bulgaria as opposed to taking the longer road into the core of Europe, always respond that they prefer to go back to the bombs in Syria rather than live in Bulgaria. You can imagine how bad we're having it around here then. It's also notable that many of those refugees look wealthier than most Bulgarians.

Probably the only upside of being a backward ass of the world.

silberstreif October 12 2015, 10:14:43 UTC

With all this discussion, I am just wondering what exactly the EU should have done differently... It's easy to say "They didn't do enough!" but then I can't pinpoint a moment, when the European states really behaved irrationally or irresponsibly. Yes, hindsight is always 20/ 20, but fact is that as long as the EU does not want to send an army, march in with footsoldiers and forces the region into peace... as long as we aren't prepared to send our own brothers and sons and daughters to die there, what can be done? I am not seeing any group involved in the fightings at the moment, which I would trust with money and weapons. In fact, I would dare to say, that too much available money is a problem of this war ( ... )

ddstory October 12 2015, 11:09:59 UTC

It's not a single moment. The failure has been systematic. Europe has been turning the other way for a long time, hoping that the likes of Turkey would deal with the whole problem on their own. Well, they won't ( ... )

johnny9fingers October 12 2015, 11:08:13 UTC

Well...after IS bombed a rally in support of the pro-Kurdish HDP party in Ankara, Turkey stepped up its campaign against the Kurdish separatist PKK.

Realpolitik can be advantageous for some folk, but not if you're a Kurd, obvs.

Shame, and all that.