Armed Teachers Vs Good Sense! Fight!

[dv8nation]

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/02/1384531/armed-teacher-training-program/

An Ohio gun owners’ group is launching an “Armed Teacher Training Program” to instruct teachers and school staff on how to shoot off firearms in the

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[brother_dour]

Hopefully this is just a knee-jerk reaction and people will calm down eventually

Ah, you must be taking about Diane Feinstein...

Also, the Gun-Free Schools Act only applies to students. Teachers and administrators, I believe, are governed by state law. And state law is a total crapshoot.

[telemann]

Also, the Gun-Free Schools Act only applies to students.

Citation please, because I looked at the act, and there is NO such distinction.

[brother_dour]

States can exempt people who have a CCL issued by that state, although I do not know if any states have. Presumably, this includes faculty, unless there's a section of the law I'm missing that exempts faculty from the exemption.

[telemann]

If you find it let me know. I didn't see anything just limiting this to students *your original comment*

[rimpala]

Welp. gun nuts, you're getting your wish, lets train our teachers to shoot our own children. I need a drink.

[sandwichwarrior]

I simply can not wrap my head around the idea that you would trust someone to be responsible for other people's children but not trust them to handle a weapon responsibly.

I mean the stakes aren't even on the same continent much less in the same ballpark.

A gun or knife is an inanimate object, as such it almost never does anything unexpected or untoward.

Children on the other hand are prone to both.

[rimpala]

I don't trust all teachers, some have been caught before for molesting students, and the job is already stressful enough without them having to be trained to kill. But hey what am I going on about anyways, you all won. It's not going to prevent another mass shooting I can see that already, but it doesn't matter because the most important thing is more money in the NRA's pocket.

[fizzyland]

I'm dubious about trusting many of our cops with guns, I feel much more so towards people with even less professional inclination to be shooters. Yes, any idiot can pull a trigger but it's a rare cat that can do so effectively in a high-stress situation.

[vitsli]

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.

[dv8nation]

No, you sense the rather questionable meat I had with dinner.

[rimpala]

Did you have it with fava beans and a nice chianti?

[dv8nation]

I plead the fifth. And no, I don't know where that hobo went so stop asking.

[squidb0i]

Meanwhile, both sides of this argument completely ignore the source of the problem:

- Shredded social safety nets that allow people to become so desperate or victimized or deranged that they decide to harm others. The US has become a vast experiment in social darwinism.

- The Drug War that props up violent cartels and gangs that commit most crime, particularly violent crime, particularly gun crime. The same Drug War that leads to no knock SWAT raids for pot, to property confiscations, to casual users put in gang run prisons with hardened criminals.

Neither guards at every building and guns in every hand, nor total disarmament will make a damn bit of difference until we address both of those systemic failures.

[dv8nation]

Of course, violent crime has been falling in the US for year. NYC currently has crime levels the same as it had in 1963.

[squidb0i]

[sandwichwarrior]

Neither guards at every building and guns in every hand, nor total disarmament will make a damn bit of difference until we address both of those systemic failures.

Which you'd think be apparent anyone with half a clue.

Thus I have to conclude that the majority of gun-control advocates are either A) Clueless, B) Have alterior motives, or C) some combination of the two.

[sandwichwarrior]

I really don't understand what is so controversial about this.

Disallowing guns in schools clearly hasn't prevented any one from shooting them up so why shouldn't a teacher be allowed to go armed if they so choose?

[dv8nation]

To prevent a teacher from snapping? Or using a weapon to intimidate students? Oh, and then there's whole thing of the gun being stolen.

Guns + school = bad. It's that simple.

[sandwichwarrior]

If you can't trust a person to handle a weapon responsibly how the fuck can you trust them to handle someone else's children?

[rimpala]

A teacher's job is to educate our children not shoot their brains out.