Freedom from what?

Dec 22, 2012 15:07

Gun advocate: "...and yet it is possible for any government to become sufficiently corrupt and malevolent. Thus, the point of the second amendment."

I've so far done my best to stay away from this topic, and yet... )

gun laws, civil rights

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luzribeiro December 22 2012, 13:16:24 UTC
Not just freedom from what, but also freedom at what cost.

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ddstory December 22 2012, 13:19:05 UTC
I wonder when it'll be appropriate to talk about this in the wake of the Pennsylvania shooting that happened just yesterday. Maybe we'll have to wait for another X days before the Code of Appropriateness changes from "STFU" through "No Way" through "somewhat greenish" to "slightly green".

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stewstewstewdio December 22 2012, 23:12:49 UTC
I wonder when it'll be appropriate to talk about this in the wake of the Pennsylvania shooting that happened just yesterday.

It took approximately 0 days for the Republicans to jump on the Benghazi attacks with a battle cry of a witch hunt of Condoleeza Susan Rice. Despite a period of mourning out of respect for the dead, the NRA and other gun obsessed activists are ever at the ready to divert the blame away from their sacred guns.

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ddstory December 22 2012, 23:35:26 UTC
From what I'm hearing, the NRA are rather more interested in beating the hysteria drums and warning people that Obama is planning to "take our guns", and urging them to buy more guns and ammo urgently. Which explains the huge queues at the gun stores in recent days.

Quite ironically, the spree of shootings has prompted a mass gun buying hysteria. The awesomestest Christmas present these days, I guess, is a new rifle.

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mahnmut December 23 2012, 11:35:39 UTC
It'll buy you some freedoms.

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luvdovz December 22 2012, 13:30:48 UTC
The next one to tell me how un-free I am for havnig all those comprehensive and adequate regulations on gun ownership over here in Sweden, is getting it. And it's not like Swedes don't love their guns.

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johnny9fingers December 22 2012, 19:35:07 UTC
You have pinpointed a huge oversight. But, I wonder, why haven't other equally reputable academic bodies stepped in to fill the breach, so to speak. Whither Harvard, Princeton, Yale? Of for that matter, the number crunchers at MIT? Or to be really subversive, why not foreign Universities with no axe to grind like Oxford, Cambridge, or the Sorbonne?

The NRA can't be paying them all off, can it? So what in heck is going on here? There are reputations to be made with this research, surely.

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sandwichwarrior December 22 2012, 20:26:49 UTC
But not the corrct sort of reputation.

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mahnmut December 22 2012, 21:50:38 UTC
Philosophical issues aside, it usually all boils down to money.

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underlankers December 22 2012, 14:14:49 UTC
You're using logic and reason, here. Neither the Internet nor real life are too kind to those who use either and expect people to listen, unfortunately. :/

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mahnmut December 22 2012, 21:51:34 UTC
Nope, this is mostly a rant. When I get to use logic and reason, you'll know.

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