Under L sez on morality in politics:

[underlankers]

I think too often these days politics is affected by a simple unwillingness to either see or to face up to the factors that mark it for what it is in a crude, effective pattern.

Comments

[sophia_sadek]

Do you truly advocate the notion that might makes right, or are you saying that it is the popular notion of proper governance?

Here is an interesting song that advocates the doctrine of might makes right:

[underlankers]

I do not advocate it, but rather note that it is the realistic determiner of good and evil and right and wrong. What I'd advocate would be a world based on a different, alternate principle.

[sophia_sadek]

Are you familiar with the Socratic definition of justice?

[underlankers]

All I know of Socrates is that he loved to ask questions but never answered them.

[sophia_sadek]

Searching for answers is more important for development than having them.

[underlankers]

Trolling by endlessly asking questions that have no answer is not development, it's how you troll without an Internet.

[sophia_sadek]

It is not that the questions had no answer. There was an answer to the question of justice. It just was not the politically correct answer.

[underlankers]

It was that there was no answer. You should look at how people who weren't Socrates' disciple portrayed the guy in Greek sources. It was not a nice portrayal by any means, and that sophistry was a major part of it.

[foolsguinea]

Not accurate.

I'm not an expert in Plato, but I think Socrates said that the good is beyond the real, and beyond what we think the good is.

[underlankers]

We know that Plato said Socrates said something like this, yes.