SPN 300th Episode! 14-13 Lebanon Thoughts, Screencaps and Poll!
So what did you think?
Poll SPN 14-13 (300th Episode) Lebanon
OK. I'm afraid I expected something very different and was rather disappointed this ep. I'm going to put it down as high Good - almost a Great, but not quite. Truly I was hoping for a reunion possibly in heaven, which is why I was speculating about Dean dying last ep. If they had been able to spend a bit of time in heaven like Jack did with his mom, you know? Or, even in someone's mind... and if that had been instrumental in finding a way to save Dean... So yeah. Awesome reunion, but I wanted so much more LOL. Maybe I'll be giving it a great on a rewatch when I don't have such high expectations.
The first hunt scene with the clown serial killer was great, even though I'm a bit tired of them toying with Sam's fear of clowns. I enjoyed the whole first part of the ep before the pearl as I would any other hunt. Unfortunately, it was sped up and way too short so that they could make room for the reunion, which was again too short. I wish dad had been able to help them in some way. And the Max girl was strange and I wanted to know more about her! Hopefully we will see those kids again. I love how the are known as the Campbells and the kids (at least some of them) are making rumours about them in their car!! <3 LOVE that.
DEAN: They always talk too much!
BOY: People say they're brothers, but ... I heard this bang from the trunk of their car and this like...shallow breathing.
(Impalla drives up)
DEAN: You're saying all this stuff is lethal?
DEAN: We just need to talk to this girl.
DEAN: Please?
LOLs forEVER
Several scenes made me tear up. Sam talking with dad was AWESOME.
SAM: When I think about you, and I think about you alot. I don't think about our fights I think about you, I think about you on the floor of that hospital, and I think about how I never got to say goodbye..
JOHN: Sam, son, I'm so sorry.
SAM: I'm sorry too. But you did your best, Dad. You fought for us, you loved us, and that's enough.
That, after Dean also apologized to Sam in Nihilism and how they tied that little bit about mom's Winchester Surprise showed some foresight. I would rather they have tied in some other tidbits we knew of from before. I would also have rather had dad be much more amazed with the Men of Letters because he should not have known anything about them. Also, we know that dad always thought that Henry had abandoned him so... I wish they had been able to tell him that he hadn't - that he had come to the future to escape from Abaddon and ended up saving them. I am thankful that John did remember what happened this ep as a dream. That's better than nothing! And maybe that helped him with Sam later in Salvation, aye?
I did have the thought - the contrast between Sam and Dean who willingly forgive their dad for any mistakes he may have made and even thanked GOD for bringing them back together for the short time - and Michael, who is gone into revenge mode. WILL this actually affect Michael? Or maybe we are just seeing the contrast? Interesting though. Family is definitely the theme this season, and forgiveness. Also important because John says this at least twice, is that he is proud of what they have done. This will at least give the boys strength to carry on.
I loved Mary and John together. I loved how Mary was wearing that brown leather jacket that was very similar if not the same as what she had worn in the early seasons. And if nothing else, at least they mentioned God and Amara and recognized that without that Mary would not have been back. Without ALL the boys had been through, none of this would have happened. I loved John's little prayer of gratitude and everyone going "Amen." That's a proper thanksgiving dinner for you :D and a very nice touch. I also appreciated Dean saying that he was good with what he and Sam had become and wouldn't want to change it. I liked that they were talking while doing the dishes too - probably to give dad and mom more time by themselves.
The angel stuff was ok. It was nice to see an old face and I loved that Sam stabbed him. But Cas showing his wings and the light effects felt rather corny. I also don't think they would have tried to kill Sam and Dean at that point - 2003?! just because they had made dad disappear. Even if Dad had disappeared and never come back, Sam and Dean would have been the vessels for Michael and Lucifer and they would have had the showdown. Sam may not have gone back to hunting - he may still have been a Kale enthusiast! I loved Dean's shudder :D - but he would have been pulled in by the demons. Well, if you think about it, it wasn't dad disappearing that hooked him, it was his girl's death. And the demons would have done that because they wanted him as Lucifer's vessel etc. AND WHY KILL DEAN? It doesn't make any sense.
I enjoyed "their Cas" coming in at the end and Dean telling him they had a story for him :)
JOHN: Near as I can tell we have two choices. We can think about what's coming or we can be grateful of this time that we have together. Now me, I choose grateful. So to whatever brought us together, we owe you one.
DEAN: Amen
MOM: Amen
SAM: Amen
SAM: It doesn't feel fair to have all this and have to throw it away. ...
DEAN: You saying you wish things were different?
SAM: Don't you? ...
DEAN: Yeah, I used to think that too. But, I mean we've been through some tough times, there's no denying that. And for the longest time I blamed dad I mean hell, I blamed mom too. I was angry. But say we could send dad back knowing everything. Why stop there?
Why not send him even further back and let some other poor sons-of-bitches save the world. But there's a problem. Who does that make us Would we be better off? Maybe. But I've got to be honest. I dont know who that Dean Winchester is. And I'm good with who I am. I'm good with who you are. Because our lives, they're ours and maybe I'm just too damn old to want to change that.
JOHN: Take care of each other.
SAM: We always do.
DEAN: Good to see you dad.
JOHN: I am so proud of you boys.
JOHN: I love you both so much.
DEAN: I love you too.
I wish I could give it a Great just for all the good parts but it was just so haphazard.
Poll SPN 14-13 (300th Episode) Lebanon
OK. I'm afraid I expected something very different and was rather disappointed this ep. I'm going to put it down as high Good - almost a Great, but not quite. Truly I was hoping for a reunion possibly in heaven, which is why I was speculating about Dean dying last ep. If they had been able to spend a bit of time in heaven like Jack did with his mom, you know? Or, even in someone's mind... and if that had been instrumental in finding a way to save Dean... So yeah. Awesome reunion, but I wanted so much more LOL. Maybe I'll be giving it a great on a rewatch when I don't have such high expectations.
The first hunt scene with the clown serial killer was great, even though I'm a bit tired of them toying with Sam's fear of clowns. I enjoyed the whole first part of the ep before the pearl as I would any other hunt. Unfortunately, it was sped up and way too short so that they could make room for the reunion, which was again too short. I wish dad had been able to help them in some way. And the Max girl was strange and I wanted to know more about her! Hopefully we will see those kids again. I love how the are known as the Campbells and the kids (at least some of them) are making rumours about them in their car!! <3 LOVE that.
DEAN: They always talk too much!
BOY: People say they're brothers, but ... I heard this bang from the trunk of their car and this like...shallow breathing.
(Impalla drives up)
DEAN: You're saying all this stuff is lethal?
DEAN: We just need to talk to this girl.
DEAN: Please?
LOLs forEVER
Several scenes made me tear up. Sam talking with dad was AWESOME.
SAM: When I think about you, and I think about you alot. I don't think about our fights I think about you, I think about you on the floor of that hospital, and I think about how I never got to say goodbye..
JOHN: Sam, son, I'm so sorry.
SAM: I'm sorry too. But you did your best, Dad. You fought for us, you loved us, and that's enough.
That, after Dean also apologized to Sam in Nihilism and how they tied that little bit about mom's Winchester Surprise showed some foresight. I would rather they have tied in some other tidbits we knew of from before. I would also have rather had dad be much more amazed with the Men of Letters because he should not have known anything about them. Also, we know that dad always thought that Henry had abandoned him so... I wish they had been able to tell him that he hadn't - that he had come to the future to escape from Abaddon and ended up saving them. I am thankful that John did remember what happened this ep as a dream. That's better than nothing! And maybe that helped him with Sam later in Salvation, aye?
I did have the thought - the contrast between Sam and Dean who willingly forgive their dad for any mistakes he may have made and even thanked GOD for bringing them back together for the short time - and Michael, who is gone into revenge mode. WILL this actually affect Michael? Or maybe we are just seeing the contrast? Interesting though. Family is definitely the theme this season, and forgiveness. Also important because John says this at least twice, is that he is proud of what they have done. This will at least give the boys strength to carry on.
I loved Mary and John together. I loved how Mary was wearing that brown leather jacket that was very similar if not the same as what she had worn in the early seasons. And if nothing else, at least they mentioned God and Amara and recognized that without that Mary would not have been back. Without ALL the boys had been through, none of this would have happened. I loved John's little prayer of gratitude and everyone going "Amen." That's a proper thanksgiving dinner for you :D and a very nice touch. I also appreciated Dean saying that he was good with what he and Sam had become and wouldn't want to change it. I liked that they were talking while doing the dishes too - probably to give dad and mom more time by themselves.
The angel stuff was ok. It was nice to see an old face and I loved that Sam stabbed him. But Cas showing his wings and the light effects felt rather corny. I also don't think they would have tried to kill Sam and Dean at that point - 2003?! just because they had made dad disappear. Even if Dad had disappeared and never come back, Sam and Dean would have been the vessels for Michael and Lucifer and they would have had the showdown. Sam may not have gone back to hunting - he may still have been a Kale enthusiast! I loved Dean's shudder :D - but he would have been pulled in by the demons. Well, if you think about it, it wasn't dad disappearing that hooked him, it was his girl's death. And the demons would have done that because they wanted him as Lucifer's vessel etc. AND WHY KILL DEAN? It doesn't make any sense.
I enjoyed "their Cas" coming in at the end and Dean telling him they had a story for him :)
JOHN: Near as I can tell we have two choices. We can think about what's coming or we can be grateful of this time that we have together. Now me, I choose grateful. So to whatever brought us together, we owe you one.
DEAN: Amen
MOM: Amen
SAM: Amen
SAM: It doesn't feel fair to have all this and have to throw it away. ...
DEAN: You saying you wish things were different?
SAM: Don't you? ...
DEAN: Yeah, I used to think that too. But, I mean we've been through some tough times, there's no denying that. And for the longest time I blamed dad I mean hell, I blamed mom too. I was angry. But say we could send dad back knowing everything. Why stop there?
Why not send him even further back and let some other poor sons-of-bitches save the world. But there's a problem. Who does that make us Would we be better off? Maybe. But I've got to be honest. I dont know who that Dean Winchester is. And I'm good with who I am. I'm good with who you are. Because our lives, they're ours and maybe I'm just too damn old to want to change that.
JOHN: Take care of each other.
SAM: We always do.
DEAN: Good to see you dad.
JOHN: I am so proud of you boys.
JOHN: I love you both so much.
DEAN: I love you too.
I wish I could give it a Great just for all the good parts but it was just so haphazard.