Jack Sparrow

[sueslaps]

Well, shiver me timbers, it's our very firstest Canon Sue! There's also an original Sue and Stu scurrying about in this story, but I thought the defilement of our good Captain's character was so gut-wrenching that it should be the focus here.

TITLE: The Sparrow's Lament: Broken Vow
CULPRIT: Ricechex
SUMMARY: "CURRENTLY ON HOLD. Capt. Jack

Comments

[sueslaps]

I think I can explain this. He is very, very, very drunk. Yes, he was not a sappy drunk in the movie, but I would rather think he is crying because alcohol is a depressant than the author has no concept of Jack's character whatsoever.

Alcohol isn't called a depressant because it makes you depressed, but because it dulls your senses and reactions and, with enough of it, makes you fall asleep. If falling into tears was a natural consequence of drinking, why the hell would people get drunk at parties?

People get drunk in different ways--angry, silly, sleepy--but they tend to be consisistent about it. And as you said, Jack isn't a sappy drunk. He got a little misty-eyed when he was on the island with Elizabeth and philosophising about freedom, (mostly because he was hitting on her) but he didn't start bawling or nothing.

I think the author really has no concept of Jack's character whatsoever. He is, plain and simple, not a man who cries much, drunk or sober. And sure as hell not a man who spends three fucking years doing nothing but crying.

[kribban]

Alcohol isn't called a depressant because it makes you depressed, but because it dulls your senses and reactions and, with enough of it, makes you fall asleep. If falling into tears was a natural consequence of drinking, why the hell would people get drunk at parties?

I think this is because the author is a teenager, or at least a very young person. Grown people who get drunk on grown-up parties do not, generally, start to cry about it. It is however almost a certainty on a party filled by twelve to sixteen year olds, that you will find a handful of people who are weeping uncontrollably because they are so drunk. I can hear you say "WTF??" even as I write this but it's true.

Every party I went to in junior high there were little clusters of boys and girls comforting each other and bawling. Pathetic, I know.

Seeing that made me rather proud (and relieved) as a fifteen year old to be a tee-totalist! Probably has something to do with young kids' bodies not being able to handle alcohol as well as a grown body. My guess is the author doesn't know that.

[sueslaps]

Yes, I know alcohol does not make you cry. I was thinking more along the lines of it making you act in ways you would not usually. So my choice of words was not good, but I had been thinking of the people that become more serious when drunk, as in angry or sad. I wasn't thinking of the silly or happy drunks, which is odd, considering Jack falls into the category.

Also, it was more a wish that he was crying because he was drunk than what I believe the reason is. I know the author has no concept of Jack's character, but tried to come up with some other explanation to preserve my faith in fanfiction writers.

In conclusion, it was a bad theory with many holes and thank you for pointing them out.

[kaneta]

My boyfriend had a friend, a couple of years back, who would weep whenever she drank. She'd apologise to EVERYONE she met on the street for being drunk--and she was a liddle thing, so she'd get drunk on two bottles of WKD Blue, and not be able to remember it later. Behind me, my boyfriend just frowned and said "Oh! Annie. Yep. There's someone who shouldn't ever get drunk!"
Never having been drunk myself(just hit 21, which is kinda redundant now that I'm in the UK but means I never tasted alcohol before I came over here)I am not in a position to understand it at all.

--Gen