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Oct 07, 2011 06:25

The triumph of intellect and romance....Thank you, Steven Moffat ( Read more... )

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suo_gan October 7 2011, 21:23:25 UTC
As you know, I really loved 'The Wedding of River Song'. Moffat's intention, like the first question, was always hidden in plain sight: the Doctor and River love each other ( ... )

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subtle1science October 7 2011, 22:31:04 UTC
AMEN ( ... )

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suo_gan October 8 2011, 18:33:17 UTC
If I recall correctly, there was mention of a woman saving the Doctor's soul which, as it turns out, is River. I guess that gets up people's noses because they find it demeaning for River. But River is a Force. She is able to fight her way out of her life suit as a child, and as an adult, she is able to counter her earlier brainwashing. To say that she is merely an adjunct to the Doctor, a character who is dismissed because she gives up her lives for him is, in reality, insulting to a character who makes her own choices, always. In fact, I find remarks like that sexist not only towards her character, but to Moffat who's written some strong female characters in this series, as well as men like Craig who aren't afraid to show their tender sides ( ... )

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subtle1science October 8 2011, 19:39:54 UTC
It seems to me that River becomes rather like her father....As Rory is Amy's anchor, her grounder--that's River for the Doctor. The Doctor and Amy are a lot alike: fast thinkers, fast actors....who occasionally need someone to pull them back, slow them down--and maybe bring them down to earth before they get a little too full of themselves ( ... )

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suo_gan October 9 2011, 03:01:21 UTC
River is a lot like Rory in an antithetical kind of way, if that makes sense. Rory is gentle, a healer, but love for Amy brings out the steel in him, makes him a hero, a lone centurion. River starts out all steel, someone who is turned into a psychopath by Kovarian, but is also changed by love to become fully actualized, a heroic woman and a loving woman ( ... )

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subtle1science October 13 2011, 10:20:30 UTC
I loved the detail that AU Amy was looking for Rory; she couldn't see him, but she knew that he had to be with her, and vice versa. The detail of her drawing of him--going directly back to her comment in "The Girl Who Waited," that he was the most beautiful man....Then, suddenly, she 'sees' him--and all's well again, no matter what else is going on; because, even in a timeline that shouldn't exist, Amy and Rory must.

I'm so liking the idea that I can look forward to what's coming in the next episodes, in the upcoming seasons. I love that I can rewatch episodes and see more and more rich detail.

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suo_gan October 14 2011, 03:28:01 UTC
There's a lovely symmetry to this story in that it refers back to 'Let's Kill Hitler' in which Rory is crazy in love with Amy but can't bring himself to declare it, and she loves him as well but until she really sees him for the first time, she can't make that connection. Once they do, though - wow, does everything take off. They are meant for each other, clearly, and nothing, even death, can keep them apart ( ... )

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subtle1science October 14 2011, 10:12:39 UTC
The thing that Moffat realizes is simple: most people are involved with other people--being in love is not some abnormal weakness, as portrayed in Rusty's scripts.

Moffat also explores the process of falling in love, even giving two versions of it with Amy/Rory and the Doctor/River. Being in love also doesn't mean endlessly perfect, idyllic bliss--Moffat's couples spar and squabble; they even get angry and shout. It all brings that touch of normalcy to the fantastic world into which the characters are set.

That's why Moffat's work is so engaging.

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