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Aug 27, 2008 22:43

Sometime in the last 2 years, Peter started believing in God again. He got his faith back and I didn't knowTHAT FREAKS ME OUT! Peter never does something I don't know about! Believe me. I know when he had sex because he has that look. I know when he's hungry or thirsty or in pain but not telling anyone. I know when he's happy, I know when he' ( Read more... )

what happened to me?!, are you there god it's me thomas, doubting thomas haha irony

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in_spectre_mors August 27 2008, 13:11:08 UTC
Faith is a difficult thing in all our lives, I think. Even knowing my friends as I do, I'm still surprised when any of them express faith. I've always felt there must be a point where faith ends and knowledge begins, and we know so much. Perhaps the difference with Peter is that he's humble enough to see how much he doesn't know. And that makes faith possible again ( ... )

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suave_thomas August 27 2008, 13:16:50 UTC
That's pretty much what he said when I asked. He said there's no way he could know that there's not some Great Being behind it all and it's a bit pompous of him to assume he does. And I guess...he does kind of have a point...

He does, doesn't he? He's very...Peter. Argh. I still hate that I didn't know. Peter WAS his faith when I knew him and so I feel like I missed...him.

I don't think I can. I was dead. I don't think those beliefs are for me anymore. I just don't. I respect Peter for believing them though. Oh how I do.

She was incredible. I'll miss her. But you know...I'll see her again eventually. It's...harder to mourn when you've been dead. I feel sort of cold. But I know where they are, so I just...yeah. She IS still with us.

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in_spectre_mors August 28 2008, 11:35:12 UTC
Well, there's nothing to say that there isn't something beyond the Beyond... but I suppose we'll know with time. One thing to be said, there's certainly no rush about it. There's more than enough to deal with, with what we do know.

Yes, I see what you mean. It would be like if I gave up music, then took it up again without you knowing. I understand that it's immensely confronting. You're not going to miss anything now, though. You're together for the long haul.

I don't think it makes anyone more or less, whether they believe or don't. You reasons for not believing are as deeply considered as Peter's for believing. You're both wise men with strong convictions. I wouldn't be surprised if, in your own ways, you're both right.

Yes, we will see her again. Knowing that is an immense comfort. I'm very glad we have that, that you have that.

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suave_thomas August 28 2008, 11:38:01 UTC
Ain't that the truth?

You're right, we are. Don't give up music. You'd be very sad. It would be like giving up breathing, which, incidentally, you are also not allowed to do!

Whoa, mind fuck!

I love you, little angel man.

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lady_with_thee August 27 2008, 13:17:14 UTC
Even at five hundred and change years, it would be hubris of me to think I had any of the answers to the questions of faith. All any of us can do is find the places to look that feel right to us. Personally, I left faith behind a long time ago, though I did sometimes go back to it as a security blanket. I found faith comfortable, and maybe that in itself is proof that I didn't have true faith. I think true faith is constantly confronting, at odds with conflicting elements in the world and the self. If you can hold onto it despite that, I think that is what defines faith. I see that in the way you stand by your friends and family despite everything. If you can find that connection to an ideal, something you can live your life by, I think that is the key to finding a broader faith. But that's just me. You may have an entirely different idea ( ... )

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suave_thomas August 27 2008, 13:22:20 UTC
No, that's pretty much how I feel too. And I was like that, in life. You know me. I'm not very monk-like and yet I was a monk because I loved my faith. It was always a struggle to stay there. To be that person. It was. But I did it. And now I can't anymore, and that's that.

I just wish I'd known is all. I always know. It's...strange. Yes. After crisis.

You just look after her, alright, Baby?

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lady_with_thee August 28 2008, 11:37:25 UTC
You've grown, and that's not something to be lamented. The door on faith may be closed, at least for now, but there are so many that have been opened to you in the meantime. Like being married to me!

I think that could very well be a maxim in life, Thomas always knows. You still walk very much with Peter. I know you always will.

I'll take the very best care of her, Thomas, I promise.

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suave_thomas August 28 2008, 11:39:23 UTC
That's my favourite door, thanks!

Well...Thomas mostly knows? I know I do. And will. Forever.

I know that too. My beautiful Mary.

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