gay marriage

May 22, 2008 18:06

Being gay, I am quite naturally all for it. Hell, my partner and I are hoping to have a wedding ourselves! I can understand not agreeing with the lifestyle, but not the denial of basic rights. And what really astounds me is the arguments people come up with for being against it ( Read more... )

gay marriage, philosophy, family, friends, morals, religion, gay rights

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kor27 May 23 2008, 02:36:56 UTC
This is one of those arguments that really can't be won.

Your person A believe what he/she believes, and won't let little things like facts interfere with the process.

Let's just look at a few of the absurdities here.

As I remember, at least 5 of the "activist judges" in this case are conservative appointees, yet somehow the decision was 4 to 3 against the statute. I believe I even read somewhere about one of those in the majority being personally uncomfortable with the decision, but compelled to reach it as a point of law.

It's fairly obvious that if they were going to twist the law to make a point, they wouldn't be twisting it this way.

Then the whole, tired, "choice" argument. Granted, I haven't heard of any study of lesbians (you're a much smaller population, and besides, the gay males get the majority of the bashing), but I haven't seen any report of a serious study that says the basis for homosexuality is anything but biological.

It's not a straightforward genetic matter, but there's indications of a genetic predisposition, and hormonal triggers. The studies continue.

Then just from the logical viewpoint: Why, if the gay lifestyle is a choice, would so many people take that choice? The only thing that has ever made sense to me about the people trumpeting that accusation is that they're gay themselves. 'Cause straight people just aren't attracted to the opposite sex.

I mean, I love what I live of the gay lifestyle. I enjoy the parties, the hugging, and the general blessed lack of machismo. But I don't have sex with men because I'm not attracted to them.

But to live "gaily" means to invite disapprobation, and in some cases, painful, nasty death. Is A trying to claim that every homosexual out there has some sort of innate desire to be persecuted? And if so, why have they been trying so hard to be accepted?

Then there's November. All indications are that A is going to be badly disappointed. Viewpoints have changed since 22 was enacted. The legislature, responding to the will of the people, has twice tried to legalize gay marriage. Each time it's been vetoed by the governor, based on Prop. 22. But now that's gone, and even the governor opposes an amendment.

Last I heard, they were having a hard enough time getting enough signatures to get the amendment on the ballot. It'll make it, but it's very unlikely it'll pass.

Though I suppose I shouldn't underestimate the power of hate...

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stormmonkey May 23 2008, 03:18:09 UTC
It's nice to hear a voice a reason. :)

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kor27 May 23 2008, 03:36:36 UTC
Well, honestly, it seems that at least some of the respondents to "A" were being fairly reasonable...

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stormmonkey May 23 2008, 03:47:08 UTC
This is true. I however do not know them, so I am glad that I do know some people who are not gay and can still be reasonable about this whole issue. Person A has added more since then, and is still being narrow-minded and illogical in their defense.

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