Comments | stormmonkey: gay marriage

stormmonkey

gay marriage

May 22, 2008 18:06

Being gay, I am quite naturally all for it. Hell, my partner and I are hoping to have a wedding ourselves! I can understand not agreeing with the lifestyle, but not the denial of basic rights. And what really astounds me is the arguments people come up with for being against it ( Read more... )

gay marriage, philosophy, family, friends, morals, religion, gay rights

Comments 14

kor27 May 23 2008, 02:36:56 UTC

This is one of those arguments that really can't be won.

Your person A believe what he/she believes, and won't let little things like facts interfere with the process.

Let's just look at a few of the absurdities here.

As I remember, at least 5 of the "activist judges" in this case are conservative appointees, yet somehow the decision was 4 to 3 against the statute. I believe I even read somewhere about one of those in the majority being personally uncomfortable with the decision, but compelled to reach it as a point of law.

It's fairly obvious that if they were going to twist the law to make a point, they wouldn't be twisting it this way.

Then the whole, tired, "choice" argument. Granted, I haven't heard of any study of lesbians (you're a much smaller population, and besides, the gay males get the majority of the bashing), but I haven't seen any report of a serious study that says the basis for homosexuality is anything but biological ( ... )

stormmonkey May 23 2008, 03:18:09 UTC

It's nice to hear a voice a reason. :)

kor27 May 23 2008, 03:36:36 UTC

Well, honestly, it seems that at least some of the respondents to "A" were being fairly reasonable...

stormmonkey May 23 2008, 03:47:08 UTC

This is true. I however do not know them, so I am glad that I do know some people who are not gay and can still be reasonable about this whole issue. Person A has added more since then, and is still being narrow-minded and illogical in their defense.

djericjames May 23 2008, 03:45:45 UTC

A sounds like a fantastic person that I'd want my kids around ( ... )

ex_bellicane303 May 23 2008, 16:36:03 UTC

*pet pet* You're not crazy. They're missing part of their empathy button.

stormmonkey May 23 2008, 20:51:29 UTC

Thanks.
Hey, it's been too long! We should get together. How does dinner or something sound? You and yours with me and mine?

ex_bellicane303 May 23 2008, 21:46:19 UTC

That sounds great! I'll be in the general bay area-ish (Santa Cruz and Berkeley) from June 26th - July 6th (and we have a car). I have some things planned here and there but June 30th - July 5th is wide open still.

I moved to Seattle btw! Do you know anybody up here I should meet. We're mostly settled in and trying to make new friends now!

stormmonkey May 24 2008, 01:36:08 UTC

Well, here's my cell- 408-757-1807. Give us a call when you are around and we'll try to coordinate something. :)
I don't know many in Washington these days. I think the only person left I know around there would be my friend Dave. But he lives in WallaWalla now. You'd like him though. Maybe you guys aren't too far, and he might know some other folks, or good spots to check out in the city.

wolfe_girl87 May 23 2008, 17:19:03 UTC

"I think you will find children raised by gay couples are more often happy and well-rounded individuals."

Through out elementary school and High school I had a bunch of friends that came from same sex families. They were the most well adjusted kids I had ever met, polite, sweet and funny. One of them once told me "I never questioned that my parents loved me, no one gets accidentally adopted"

I am sorry that someone close to you was so creul, I know that LJ and places like this are for the free exchange of ideas but I feels are if it is something you would not say to someones face, don't write it.

stormmonkey May 23 2008, 20:49:43 UTC

"No one gets accidentally adopted." Exactly my point. :) Some of the most well adjusted people come from same sex families.
We appreciate your support. This person is someone you know as well. Their words are, unfortunately, something they would say to our face as well. I think it is this point, that we disagree upon so drastically, that makes us question the true depth of the friendship. If they can be this unsupportive, how can they maintain a friendship?

ex_bellicane303 May 23 2008, 22:04:30 UTC

Most people don't take a look a good look at their actions vs. their beliefs until they get older.

muirlock June 4 2008, 08:55:40 UTC

Hope you don't mind me chiming in. (Had a few years of and only now *beginning* to come out of depression ( ... )

stormmonkey June 5 2008, 02:20:54 UTC

Of course you are more than welcome to chime in!! :) *hugs* Good to hear from you! I am glad you are coming out of the depression. Let me know if we can do anything to help. Or if you just want to hang out!
Person A is indeed a Christian. A techno computer weenie who is very Republican, pro-life, anti-gay... I could likely go on and on. They seem accepting but their views are anything but. It is very hard to swallow the juxtaposition. Their later replies have more religion in them on their LJ. But since they had friend-locked their entry, I felt obliged to allow them to remain annonymous.