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[stellamira]

Sometimes I feel like I'm back in Harry Potter fandom. "Hi, this is my first Winchest, so plz be nice, even though I didn't even read through it again once and I don't know how to use the spellchecker, so the occasional character named Sma or dean turns up. thx lol

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[turps33]

You're getting so good at these rants *g*

[stellamira]

It's that fandom! Seriously. I hate talking about people behind their back (except if it's gossip), but I don't like exposing people, either, so the name-less version

[saba1789]

Hey, just because it's their native language and they want other people to read what they have written you can't expect everyone to do it right. Oh, wait... *squishes you*

[stellamira]

I do expect them to do the same thing as me when there's two similar words that I can't keep apart or know I often mix up: look it up. The only explanation I can think of is that they weren't ever told that there is a difference. And I do expect them to be literate enough to know that you begin a spoken sentence with a captial letter and end with a full stop.

[saba1789]

Oh hey, I completely agree with you but apparently my attempted sarcasm didn't come through in my comment. Woe!

[stellamira]

Nah. It did come through; it was just a serious answer. :)

[lea_ndra]

And, for the love of God (and the last time): People are not "laying" beside each other, they're "lying" (however, in the past, they very much "lay" beside each other and not "laid"), and they don't "lie" things down, they "lay" (or in the past "laid") them down.

Just give up. Noone writes it correctly these days. I told myself that it's not bugging me anymore (although it is), but really, it's not worth ranting about.

[madame_d]

For me, proper grammar (or lack thereof) can make or break a story. Even if it's a favourite writer with a story that I'm willing to worship, improper grammar just kills all the warm fuzzies I previously had. Especially with lie/lay issue. *shivers*

[stellamira]

I know I should just leave it, but I can't help shuddering every time I read it. And maybe it's just imagination, but I get the impression that it's a phenomenon most popular in the SPN fandom. I don't remember reading it that often before.

[lea_ndra]

oh believe me, it's not just SPN, it's been around for years. *sigh*

[sirkate]

Okay, first I'm laughing really hard. Second, I wasn't ever taught this, and my patient (though long-suffering) writing partner is always having to correct me.

[stellamira]

Hehe. Now you know. But see, the thing is: you have someone to correct you. I don't understand why, if people know they have problems with it, they don't just go and ask someone. Or look it up.

[madame_d]

And, for the love of God (and the last time): People are not "laying" beside each other, they're "lying" (however, in the past, they very much "lay" beside each other and not "laid"), and they don't "lie" things down, they "lay" (or in the past "laid") them down.

THANK YOU! That's my biggest fucking pet-peeve! It drives me crazy when a writer I love, in a story that I adore, makes mistakes like that, because really, I KNOW they had a beta, and what, couldn't be bothered to learn a few rules? I can let who/whom go. But lie/lay and who's/whose just drive me batshit. I realise that non-native speakers are more careful with spelling and grammar than natives but for the love of all that's holy, learn a few freaking rules, right? *flaps angrily*

[stellamira]

It gets sort of ironic when non-native speakers have to teach the native speakers about their language, doesn't it. I always think I should point stuff like that out to the author, but I somehow feel that I don't really have the right to, and I don't want to sound like a smartass and a nitpicker, either. Maybe I should start doing it, though.

Who's/whose, there/their/they're is just as bad, but at least that only means they can't spell. Lie/lay has a completely different meaning, and nobody seems to care.