"And you won’t always be as devoted to Bill as you are now."

[starryeyedmagic]

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE EPIC LATENESS OF THIS! My life has just been insane lately so I've had literally no time at all to do these.

But the one good thing about no new ep this week (and it being a holiday week) is that I finally got to catch up

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[starryeyedmagic]

haha yea, I liked the Charlie bits. Although if any character in Twilight has a legit reason to be serious it's him. I remember laughing so hard/being totally apalled by the fact that in Breaking Dawn he was just like "So you're 18, married, taking care of some weird kid that I'm pretty sure is your demon spawn, got some kind of crazy plastic surgery, you may not be attending college as I thought, and you never ever call me....that's nice."

LOL my dad would have dropped dead himself if half of that stuff happened to me.

(Although this version of Sookie might, sigh.)
I really hope not. I wonder how she'll even find out about what Bill did. It's interesting how in the book she knew the entire time that he cheated on her. It was more like "Yea, he cheated so our relationship is pretty much over, but I still love him so I don't want anything bad to happen to him."
And since she knew they were already over that was why things could happen with Eric (and sort of Alcide).

And yet on the show she pretty much thinks they're engaged since she's wearing his ring. That just makes the preview of her making out with Eric super confusing. I mean, even if she was only doing it to "get information" (or whatever is going on there, idk) wouldn't that still be cheating from her POV?

idk whatever, I'm sure the scene will be hot no matter what. haha.

And I guess we're also supposed to believe it came out of self-hatred?
I guess? But honestly, his relationship with Sookie and what happened to his wife are totally different things. I don't understand how he can say "Oh because they're both human it'll be exactly the same"

His wife didn't even know what a vampire was. She was confused and scared of him (which any person would be). And back then vampires really couldn't be around humans. But now that everyone knows about them it's not really that big of a deal anymore. So it's like the whole problem is all in Bill's head, I guess because Lorena mentally screwed him up or something.

Then I guess if he does rape Sookie at the end of the season it'll be like this self fufilling prophecy and he'll start wailing about how he knew he would hurt her.

ugh there's a reason I can see it happening. To legitimize his self-hatred.

Have you read any comments from Alan Ball about this season? I haven't, but I'm wondering what he's saying about Bill and Bill/Sookie now . . .
I haven't recently, but I'm definitely curious.
Although I do remember him saying that he viewed Bill as this "tragic hero" type.

haha and I don't know if I'd go so far as to ever call him a hero, but he's certainly a tragic figure in the way he always unintentionally messes things up for himself and the ones he loves. I guess I can see how that might be interesting to AB in a twisted way, although just being twisted and sad doesn't make someone likeable.

[katayla]

Haha, I could actually see my parents being supportive! I mean, they'd initially freak out and probably tell me I was ruining my life, but then my mom would be like BABY!!!! and that would distract her.

Yeah, it's kind of uncomfortable watching Sookie being so in love with Bill, while he apparently considers the relationship over. I really hope she finds out what Bill's been up to soon. (And not just for Sookie/Eric reasons, haha.)

It's funny. I think the book really did make the kidnapping set up much more interesting.

Totally agree with you about Bill and his wife vs. Bill/Sookie. Plus . . . I'm not quite sure how to phrase, but his wife didn't want to be with him? She just wanted him to get away from him. Sookie wants to be with him. She's actively looking for him. And he's taking that choice away from her.

Ugh, but he's a tragic figure in such a cliche way! I guess in some ways, the Lorena things makes him more actually tragic, that we can see she really did screw him up. But, mostly, he brings so much of it on himself, it's hard to sympathize with him.

[starryeyedmagic]

I hope she finds out soon too. Because even though she realizes that Bill has a "dark side" I'm not sure if she understands that it's more than just the fact that he's a vampire. Bill has a dark side that's very specific to just him.
All vampires have a dark side, absolutely, but Bill has this really messed up part of him that is partially Lorena's fault, but mostly his own fault. Eric, Pam, and Jessica all have some intensely dark issues, but I don't think any of them needs serious therapy more than Bill does. haha.

Bill just needs a support group or something. lol with the motto "Accept who you are. Be proud of who you are. And live the most awesome life you can with what you're given." Hating yourself and not doing anything to make your life better is helpful to no one. Just saying "Well my life sucks and I'm a terrible person and that will never change so I should just give in to being awful forever" is such a terrible/unhealthy attitude to have.

And he's taking that choice away from her.
Yea, that's the worst part. I mean, given what Russell said to him he has no reason to believe that he'll be "kidnapped" for more than a week at the most. And then instead of waiting to talk to Sookie about what he's been thinking he just decides what's best for her. And then he thinks, "All right it's over because I say so. I guess I'll go rape my ex now." wtf?

[katayla]

Just saying "Well my life sucks and I'm a terrible person and that will never change so I should just give in to being awful forever" is such a terrible/unhealthy attitude to have.

And it's not even a vampire thing, really! I mean, I think we've discussed in the past that he doesn't need to feel guilty about drinking blood, since he can just drink true blood. Actually, I guess it links up to a lot of what we've discussed. It's not like being a vampire makes you automatically evil and it's not like being human makes you automatically good!

One of my favorite recent books was Bitten by Kelley Armstrong about a woman who becomes a werewolf not by choice and how a lot of her struggles were not so much about being a werewolf, but about having that choice taken away from her. I think that might be Bill's problem as much as anything. (And makes him taking away Sookie's choices EVEN WORSE.)

And Bill could even give Sookie a call now, as far as I can tell! If he truly thinks he's bad for her, then, to some extent, fine, go ahead, break up with her. But tell her, let her argue her side--because, no matter how I feel about the guy, Sookie loves him--and, if he still refuses to listen to her, get out of her life entirely. That's still not really fair to Sookie, but you can't force someone to be with you.

I just realized I basically described New Moon. We need to get rid of these controlling pop culture vampires who think they know what's best for their girlfriend. :( And of the girlfriends who seem almost literally incapable of surviving without them.

[starryeyedmagic]

It's not like being a vampire makes you automatically evil and it's not like being human makes you automatically good!
And I feel like that's one of True Blood's biggest themes. haha Bill should know that!

lol yea, Bill could call Sookie now. Wasn't there a part in the preview where he calls and she's wearing the same outfit she's wearing now? Maybe he does that at the start of tomorrow's ep?
...And he probably should have done that first before having sex with someone else. ugh.

We need to get rid of these controlling pop culture vampires who think they know what's best for their girlfriend. :( And of the girlfriends who seem almost literally incapable of surviving without them.
Seriously! My co-worker and I were talking about Twilight/True Blood during our lunch hour on Friday:

Co-worker: ...but I guess in the tv show Sookie will probably just end up back with Bill eventually
Me: ugh I hope not, because she should never just accept all that stuff
Co-worker: Yea, but lots of girls would probably forgive all of that when they think they're in love.
Me: Oh I know, and that's terrible. And even more of a reason I'd never want to see that on tv, especially if it's portrayed as a "good thing". I wish they'd show that Sookie is better than that.

[katayla]

I normally don't see the previews 'cause I don't have HBO anymore, but, if he calls at all, I'm excited, lol! Maybe that's when the book stuff starts coming more in? In terms of Sookie considering the relationship over? But it really still won't be the same. In the books, I felt a little uneasy about her stuff with Alcide and Eric. Not overly so, but a little. And now I'll just be like, "YEAH. GO GET THEM."

Yep. Exactly with you. I want to believe most people reading/watching this stuff wouldn't accept it in real life, but stories DO matter. They affect people. We need some good examples out there of women/relationships. (And there ARE good ones, of course, so maybe I just mean we need more popular ones.)