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luthien_9 July 30 2009, 07:55:45 UTC
Okk, about the rape part, Bill had been tortured and left without food for a long period of time. You have to understand that for a vampire, having no blood makes them crazy. Is not like if a human were to starve, it's completely different, and they always connect feeding from a human with sex. I never saw what happened as rape, because Bill was acting on his vampire instincts, he hadn't even recognized Sookie, and if it had been a boy, an old lady, any person in there, he would have reacted the same way. Obviously is not ok from Sookie's POV, but if you ask any other vampire (lol, i'm weird), I bet he/she would say it was natural, after what Bill had been through.
On another subject, I think really old vampires (for example Godric) did torture humans just for the fun, and since we don't know who Lorena's maker is... I'm just saying that's a posibility.
About Lafayette selling V, I think it's a plan from Eric to find out more buyers... idk, that was weird. Also Eric is sector 5 sheriff, not 9

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starryeyedmagic July 30 2009, 08:12:43 UTC
Oh, I completely understand all that. But it was still rape by definition. I mean, whether it was intentional or not is besides the point. Sex was still had without consent. I don't necessarily blame Bill for it because I know it was beyond his control but it still happened nonetheless.
And I'm sure he would have raped a boy or an old lady. It definitely wasn't Sookie specific.

I also think it had to do with how young he is. I think in that situation a vampire as old as Eric or Godric might have been able to control themselves (I think this because of the way that Eric was literally able to fly himself/Sookie/Pam's coffin out of a burning building in the middle of broad daylight, that's some intense control).

But what I was saying here is that if the whole thing was more than just "oh Bill was a starving vampire" that would make him even more sympathetic. Which in this case, can only help his character. There's so much about what happened that was just brushed under the rug ( ... )

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rissa333 July 30 2009, 14:18:35 UTC
I also think it had to do with how young he is. I think in that situation a vampire as old as Eric or Godric might have been able to control themselvesExactly this. As much of a non-Bill fan I am, I tend to cut him a little more slack with the whole trunk debacle. Though honestly, this would NEVER have happened with Eric. Though I am quite surprised that Book!Sookie cut him so much slack for this considering her history with Uncle Bartlett and such ( ... )

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enthoozed July 30 2009, 17:01:59 UTC
As much of a non-Bill fan I am, I tend to cut him a little more slack with the whole trunk debacle. Though honestly, this would NEVER have happened with Eric. Though I am quite surprised that Book!Sookie cut him so much slack for this considering her history with Uncle Bartlett and such.

THIS. I don't get Charlaine Harris sometimes. I really found that whole situation disturbing! >:|

Whatever, I feel like Charlaine skips right over important plots (which is why I'm afraid she'll have Sookie get-over the whole trauma of D&G). She turned this strong female character into a weak one, imo.

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starryeyedmagic July 30 2009, 17:15:17 UTC
I found it really creepy that like...less than an hour after he raped her she let Bill brush her hair.

I mean, wtf?

Even if it's not his fault, as a person with a history of sexual abuse she should have been SO shaken. I guess she was just trying to block it out?

I agree, I think she'll probably "get over" the torture for the most part. sigh.

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quamquam20 July 30 2009, 19:51:14 UTC
I cannot believe I just found so many posts in one place that I 100% agree with. I feel so validated ( ... )

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starryeyedmagic July 30 2009, 17:22:25 UTC
I think the fact that it wouldn't have happened with Eric is part of why I like Eric/Sookie so much. Bill is technically far more dangerous than Eric is. It would be hard to find a situation where Eric would just not be able to control himself. And Bill, regardless of his good intentions, just isn't old enough to be able to say that.

Yea, the show has tried so hard to make Bill likable that it almost had the opposite effect.

But Bill wasn't unlikable (just a bit dull) before book 3. So if they went straight with the books I think they would have to try to soften him up at least a bit. Especially if they want to make it more of a triangle. In the books it almost feels like you have to root for Eric (at least at that point in the series) considering everything.

I agree, Eric definitely does give his blood too easily on the show. I rationalize that what happened with Lafayette was definitely for Sookie and wasn't even remotely sexual but still...it makes blood donation seem like not a big deal, when it definitely is.

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