Nobody makes a return on Supernatural without eventually dying for it.
THIS. THIS X A HUNDRED ELEVENTY MILLION. lolololol. Ahhhh. Funny and tragic and true.
YOU AREN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS OFFENDED A BIT BY THE PORTRAYAL OF THE ANCIENT GODS. I said something to the same effect back at the discussion post, but someone else responded to me saying that the show has shown that gods only have as much power as they have believers. So I'm trying to go with that explanation myself because I was honestly put off by how quick these "gods" went down.
The Ghostfacers commercial was one of my favorite parts! I thought it was part of the show too and I just nearly fell off the couch laughing. ^_^ Oh show. (I was eternally grateful, by the way, for the light heartedness of this episode after so many heartbreaking ones. Dean getting to feast on pie and unsuspectingly hit on Kali? Gabe showing up to brighten the day and apparently change his entire alignment? Gabe in a porno? THANK YOU SHOW!)
But yes, Gabe dying was a huge part of why I view this episode as good but tainted. Thank you again, show, for not making me want to hang myself with angst. But you just HAD to put something in there to screw with us, didn't you!? Jesus, Kripke. D:
Now here's the kicker; what happens when angels die? Do they just get sent back to heaven? Oblivion?
THIS. THIS X A HUNDRED ELEVENTY MILLION. lolololol. Ahhhh. Funny and tragic and true.
You know, I just thought of someone who made a return to the show and didn't die for it - Rufus. Oh crap, I've probably jinxed him now, haven't I?
YOU AREN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS OFFENDED A BIT BY THE PORTRAYAL OF THE ANCIENT GODS. I said something to the same effect back at the discussion post, but someone else responded to me saying that the show has shown that gods only have as much power as they have believers. So I'm trying to go with that explanation myself because I was honestly put off by how quick these "gods" went down.
Seriously, the more and more I think about it and see other people's reactions and look up stuff on Wikipedia, the more annoyed I get about the show portrayed the gods. The belief=power thing would be a decent explanation for what happened...except that Kali and Ganesh are both part of the Hinduism, one of the major world religions, and Baron Samedi is a part of Hoodoo, which is also a currently practiced religion. Ganesh in particular is one of the more popular of the Hindu gods, so he should have been able to match Lucifer for power.
The Ghostfacers commercial was one of my favorite parts! I thought it was part of the show too and I just nearly fell off the couch laughing. ^_^ Oh show. (I was eternally grateful, by the way, for the light heartedness of this episode after so many heartbreaking ones. Dean getting to feast on pie and unsuspectingly hit on Kali? Gabe showing up to brighten the day and apparently change his entire alignment? Gabe in a porno? THANK YOU SHOW!)
But yes, Gabe dying was a huge part of why I view this episode as good but tainted. Thank you again, show, for not making me want to hang myself with angst. But you just HAD to put something in there to screw with us, didn't you!? Jesus, Kripke. D:
This. After the crushing angst of the past few episodes, last episode ended on a hopeful note and I was glad to see that more upbeat spirit carry over into this episode. For all that I've ranted about it, I really appreciated that this episode came from a comparatively lighter place. Gabriel's death, to put it bluntly, sucked for me, but adding the Casa Erotica message at the end helped soften the blow, I think (oh Trickster. Only he would put his final words in the middle of porn. Complete with pornstache, no less).
Now here's the kicker; what happens when angels die? Do they just get sent back to heaven? Oblivion?
That is the kicker indeed. I have the horrible suspicion that angels face oblivion when they die (in "On the Head of a Pin", when Castiel is coming across the body of his slain sister, the way he says goodbye to her sounds rather final, not at all like he's ever expecting to see her again). My personal canon is that supernatural creatures (angels/demons/monsters/etc.) get a completely different section of the afterlife, separate from everything and everyone else and where they're stripped of whatever powers they had while they were alive. And that Ash will totally find a way to get to them. That's my story and I'm sticking to it until canon tells me otherwise (and even then, I'll probably refuse to listen).
My personal canon is that supernatural creatures (angels/demons/monsters/etc.) get a completely different section of the afterlife, separate from everything and everyone else and where they're stripped of whatever powers they had while they were alive.
That sounds suspiciously like you've been looking inside MY head. :D
I always liked to think that soul energy doesn't always have to be housed, per say. It doesn't necessarily have to end up Heaven or Hell, nor does it necessarily have to be trapped in the physical plane in the form of possessions and ghosts and demons and all. And I'd like to think that when creatures that are made up of nothing be spirit or soul energy, (when you get to the core of it), are kind of... sent off into an ether sort of place.
Like a basin where energy can be continuously taken from and replaced, that surrounds and encompasses all our ideas of life and afterlife and helps to power both of them.
So. That's where Gabe is, in my opinion. AND all angels/demons/faeries/fallen gods that "die" in the physical world. But then again, this might spring from a firm belief in reincarnation but. Anyway.
Nobody makes a return on Supernatural without eventually dying for it.
THIS. THIS X A HUNDRED ELEVENTY MILLION. lolololol. Ahhhh. Funny and tragic and true.
YOU AREN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS OFFENDED A BIT BY THE PORTRAYAL OF THE ANCIENT GODS. I said something to the same effect back at the discussion post, but someone else responded to me saying that the show has shown that gods only have as much power as they have believers. So I'm trying to go with that explanation myself because I was honestly put off by how quick these "gods" went down.
The Ghostfacers commercial was one of my favorite parts! I thought it was part of the show too and I just nearly fell off the couch laughing. ^_^ Oh show. (I was eternally grateful, by the way, for the light heartedness of this episode after so many heartbreaking ones. Dean getting to feast on pie and unsuspectingly hit on Kali? Gabe showing up to brighten the day and apparently change his entire alignment? Gabe in a porno? THANK YOU SHOW!)
But yes, Gabe dying was a huge part of why I view this episode as good but tainted. Thank you again, show, for not making me want to hang myself with angst. But you just HAD to put something in there to screw with us, didn't you!? Jesus, Kripke. D:
Now here's the kicker; what happens when angels die? Do they just get sent back to heaven? Oblivion?
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You know, I just thought of someone who made a return to the show and didn't die for it - Rufus. Oh crap, I've probably jinxed him now, haven't I?
YOU AREN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS OFFENDED A BIT BY THE PORTRAYAL OF THE ANCIENT GODS. I said something to the same effect back at the discussion post, but someone else responded to me saying that the show has shown that gods only have as much power as they have believers. So I'm trying to go with that explanation myself because I was honestly put off by how quick these "gods" went down.
Seriously, the more and more I think about it and see other people's reactions and look up stuff on Wikipedia, the more annoyed I get about the show portrayed the gods. The belief=power thing would be a decent explanation for what happened...except that Kali and Ganesh are both part of the Hinduism, one of the major world religions, and Baron Samedi is a part of Hoodoo, which is also a currently practiced religion. Ganesh in particular is one of the more popular of the Hindu gods, so he should have been able to match Lucifer for power.
The Ghostfacers commercial was one of my favorite parts! I thought it was part of the show too and I just nearly fell off the couch laughing. ^_^ Oh show. (I was eternally grateful, by the way, for the light heartedness of this episode after so many heartbreaking ones. Dean getting to feast on pie and unsuspectingly hit on Kali? Gabe showing up to brighten the day and apparently change his entire alignment? Gabe in a porno? THANK YOU SHOW!)
But yes, Gabe dying was a huge part of why I view this episode as good but tainted. Thank you again, show, for not making me want to hang myself with angst. But you just HAD to put something in there to screw with us, didn't you!? Jesus, Kripke. D:
This. After the crushing angst of the past few episodes, last episode ended on a hopeful note and I was glad to see that more upbeat spirit carry over into this episode. For all that I've ranted about it, I really appreciated that this episode came from a comparatively lighter place. Gabriel's death, to put it bluntly, sucked for me, but adding the Casa Erotica message at the end helped soften the blow, I think (oh Trickster. Only he would put his final words in the middle of porn. Complete with pornstache, no less).
Now here's the kicker; what happens when angels die? Do they just get sent back to heaven? Oblivion?
That is the kicker indeed. I have the horrible suspicion that angels face oblivion when they die (in "On the Head of a Pin", when Castiel is coming across the body of his slain sister, the way he says goodbye to her sounds rather final, not at all like he's ever expecting to see her again). My personal canon is that supernatural creatures (angels/demons/monsters/etc.) get a completely different section of the afterlife, separate from everything and everyone else and where they're stripped of whatever powers they had while they were alive. And that Ash will totally find a way to get to them. That's my story and I'm sticking to it until canon tells me otherwise (and even then, I'll probably refuse to listen).
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That sounds suspiciously like you've been looking inside MY head. :D
I always liked to think that soul energy doesn't always have to be housed, per say. It doesn't necessarily have to end up Heaven or Hell, nor does it necessarily have to be trapped in the physical plane in the form of possessions and ghosts and demons and all. And I'd like to think that when creatures that are made up of nothing be spirit or soul energy, (when you get to the core of it), are kind of... sent off into an ether sort of place.
Like a basin where energy can be continuously taken from and replaced, that surrounds and encompasses all our ideas of life and afterlife and helps to power both of them.
So. That's where Gabe is, in my opinion. AND all angels/demons/faeries/fallen gods that "die" in the physical world. But then again, this might spring from a firm belief in reincarnation but. Anyway.
XD /ramble
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