Just putting down a few links for future memory needs, on that short over long thing going on.
And
hsifeng, I am desirous of coming to your place sometime, in a researching frenzy/hunt, as things are pointing to Germany or Italy as the source for some of the designs we are seeing. When you have time (not in a hurry, in other words).
http://search3.famsf.org:8080/view.shtml?keywords=%31%39%35%39%2E%31%32%31%2E%35&artist=&country=&period=&sort=&start=1&position=1&record=6631[Zoomable image]
Pieter Brueghel the Elder , artist
Flemish, 1528 - 1569
Prudence, 1558
engraving
22.4 x 29.4 cm (image), 1959.121.5
http://www.abcgallery.com/L/lotto/lotto6.htmlLorenzo Lotto. Lady with a Drawing of Lucretia. c. 1530-33. Oil on wood. National Gallery, London.
Is this a peplum of the bodice, or a tuck in the skirt?
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2767477510025622007ZaBAUbfrom Das Trachtenbuch des Christoph Weiditz c. 1530 The short garment is described as a jacket. The item in her right hand is a fan.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2710325920025622007dsYOiqBack view of the image just above.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2505459060025622007pIZwWAdress in seville
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2824775790025622007jsyHRhwoman of navarre