Is Star Trek truly in trouble and what does this mean for S/U?

Sep 04, 2013 23:36

I just got off trekmovie and they have an article about How Star Trek is broken and how it needs to be fixed. Does anyone here even agree that star trek is broken after STiD? Here is the link

http://trekmovie.com/2013/09/01/star-trek-is-broken-here-are-ideas-on-how-to-fix-it/ It is quite obvious that STiD is a film that has not been well ( Read more... )

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1trex1 September 4 2013, 22:41:05 UTC
Contuined PostI am overall just happy to see a lot of mainstream critics and fans are voicing their opinions about how wrong the S/U relationship was handled. It shows that a lot of people did care about the relationship and it once again proves what I have been telling a lot of other fans from different base. The S/U relationship went beyond the trek fandom. It is perhaps on of the few Trek romances that managed to receive mainstream media attention after the film was released and a lot of the attention was positive ( ... )

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crayford September 4 2013, 22:45:13 UTC
In reguards to the Souck Uhura and if seemed to many that she was the nagging girlfreind was a failure in the script.

They failed to show that Spock was seemingly rushing to kill himself (in perhaps guits) .. This was also mentioned in the prequal comics. Spock kept risking his like recklessly. He promised to Uhura not to do so again.

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1trex1 September 4 2013, 23:28:54 UTC
yes he did but the comics are not really canon.

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crayford September 5 2013, 11:17:01 UTC
I thought they were. These were written as direct prequals by the same person as the movie.

Mnay of the theams and event directly related to the film.

Same for the "first " movie. It showed Spock and doing his thing with the Red Matter and the what All the Nero stuff.When I bouught the Blu Ray it the Comic came with it.

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malaikamolly September 5 2013, 09:45:36 UTC
I honestly think that S/U is the least of their problem but it's true that a lot of critics lamented the fact that a romance teased in the first movie wasn't used to its full potential in the sequel. Mind you, I don't think anyone (including us the S/U fans) have unrealistic expectations. We know that the story is not about them and frankly one of their appeal is precisely that. I, personally, love that they're subtle and their relationship is not the point. It's like watching a real life couple, the relationship is there and they love one another but it's sort of their business LOL They're a bit like a combination of Arwen/Aragorn and Hermione/Ron, if you get what I mean ( ... )

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malaikamolly September 5 2013, 15:12:48 UTC
btw, though, I don't really think that trek is broken or that stid was a failure. I think that trekmovie might be exaggerating here. It's still a hit and pretty much a success for JJ&Co. It's not true that it wasn't, overall, well received by critics. Rotten Tomatoes is at 87% positive for the critics and 91% for the audience. I mean seriously.

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1trex1 September 5 2013, 16:33:06 UTC
SSTiD is more like the Dark Knight Rises. Sure the reviews are positive on RT but there has been a lot of fans that have said the film was awful or no where near as good as the previous two.

I do agree on S/U been similar to Argorn/Arwen and Ron/Hermione, I don't think any of this 3 couples mentioned have had 10 minutes together on screen in any film.however did we really need top see uhura screaming at spock on a way to a serious mission?

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the_teener September 6 2013, 15:28:54 UTC
See, I don't think uhura was screaming at spock at all. She spoke up because spock has been careless with his life in risky situations and this was another risky situation. I think her emotions definitely got to her, but even Kirk backed her up. I just get tired of this one situation getting pulled out as uhura being unprofessional, when the men all have unprofessional moments, but get away with it.

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lantean_breeze September 5 2013, 23:11:33 UTC
"STiD was really a missed opportunity, its like what lantern-breeze said in one of her post about how she left the theatre in 2009 filling very high and very happy with herself and with film. However with STiD she didn't even know what was going on."

I was happy with the the '09 film. Films don't tend to affect how I feel about myself. I knew what was going on in STID; I just didn't understand the reasoning behind much of it... like a lot of other people. Or, maybe I should say I "get" the reasoning, but it doesn't make sense. That would be more accurate.

As for the article, I don't think Star Trek is broken but I do think STID was.

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1trex1 September 6 2013, 00:03:59 UTC
well I knew you understood the plot of the film. what I meant was that you didn't understand why the plot was written like that.

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