#102 - a honc like you
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So what do you guys think? Would Sam still have escaped to university as quickly as possible? Would Dean have as much of a need to try to put himself between John and Sam or be as devoted to following John's example and being a hunter? How would Sam have handled it if it were Dean who had been given YED's blood and had visions? How would Dean have handled it if Sam made a deal and went to Hell to save Dean's life?
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But handling the demon blood and such - I think it would be pretty much the same.
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No show is very vague on what John knew and how abd when he got to know it. Both boy seemed to think it was purely a revenge for Mary and saving people in general.
I think Dean at 14 would idolize Dad and find what he did heroic, so yeah, he'd hate Sam. But I think maybe John would think he'd not be able to raise a boy without the help of the older brother?
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Thinking about it a bit more, I think the reason I think of some of their traits as innate is just that if I don't the exercise of the AU becomes meaningless. It's not that I have any empirical or theoretical basis in psychology to think the traits I'd pick out to survive a drastic change in base experience are in fact likely to be innate, it's just that unless I assume what I happen to think of as a few core characteristics that make Sam Sam and Dean Dean I won't have a point to take off from. Bottom line, I'm still asking myself what someone recognizable as canon!Sam would do in those circumstances, even though you could certainly argue that a change of circumstances that starts with changing someone's infancy would mean that there wouldn't necessarily be a person recognizable as canon!Sam at all.
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Hmm, another thing to consider is that if Sam's driven, goal-focused side that goes with being prone to vengeance is an essential part of his character, he might have fixed even more strongly on the avenging Mary thing than John did. He might have butted heads with John not over the same topics as he did in canon, but in the way he came into conflict with Dean in s1 -- rather than wanting out of hunting, he might have been impatient at side hunts and wanted to go full on at the main quest.
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Oh, true! Being able to remember Mary would have personalized John's quest in a way that canon!Sam didn't experience until he lost Jess. And assuming Jess (or someone else Sam cared for) is still killed to spur Sam back into hunting, then Sam would have the double impact of wanting revenge both for his mother and for his lover.
Ooooh. What if Sam leaves at 18 not to go to university but because he's impatient with the lack of progress John has on the hunt for YED? John was always fixated on the goal of killing YED but he also did a lot of other hunts on the side. Maybe Sam left to hunt on his own because he was tired of getting sidetracked so much? Though it hurts a lot to have a Sam who didn't want a normal life at all. It would be like an 18 year old Mystery Spot!Sam and that concept hurts my soul.
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I think I'm going to go with Sam leaving in part because he was annoyed that John wouldn't just keep going to find YED until it was over, but leaving for that normal life and not to hunt on his own. Then going scary MS!Sam style after he's spurred back into hunting later on. :D
Which could be fun too, depending on how it was played out. Would this Sam even want Dean with him? Or would he feel overprotective and would prefer that Dean stay away for his own good while Sam did the dangerous stuff? Is John still around at this point or has he vanished, or maybe been killed? If John disappeared under mysterious circumstances, maybe Sam keeps Dean with him because it's safer than leaving Dean completely alone - and Dean is resentful because he isn't really sure that he wants to be hunting with Sam and yet Sam's all that's left of his family and he doesn't want to do it alone either ( ... )
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