Election Results: A Speaks Perspective

[speaks]

I am dissapointed that the Republicans Swept the house in such large numbers. I feel that anyone making less than $500,000 a year or so that votes Republican is voting against their own interests. There are some that vote on 'moral' issues. My mom will basically vote for whomever promises to outlaw abortions, despite the fact that Roe v. Wade is

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[sparkindarkness]

I think "moral" issues are the biggest smoke screen ever - on par with appealing to prejudices (xenophobia, homophobia, racism) and appealing to religion

[chapel_of_words]

Interestingly enough, the answer to any failure in life is almost never to continue to do more of the same of what you were doing. The key to getting out of debt isn't to take more on (either at personal or national levels); you can't eat your way out of being overweight (after losing 80lbs I've learned this the hard way); you won't get less speeding tickets by speeding more etc. etc

[chapel_of_words]

Hey - the drinking metaphor is my creation, going all the way back to Obama's victory in 2008, and my warning to those who I saw, like frat boys coming into the bar to laugh at Bush, and starting to take shots. I'm looking for the first post but LJ's search functions are styming my effort. Here however are early warnings I gave in Oct 2008 BEFORE the win:

"There's going to be a transition over the next few weeks....- pointing the finger at the "other guys" will no longer work, with the power comes the responsibility. I truly think the GOP lost their way...
The cautionary tale of what happened to the GOP is that sometimes the worst thing that can ever happen is to get all the power, because it will corrupt what you thought you had going into it."http://chapel-of-words.livejournal.com/255672.html... )

[lightbearer]

Actually, what I find interesting is that you pretty much had a quick congratulations, then absolutely nothing having to do with the elections for the week. It's not so much dignity in losing as ignoring the matter entirely.

On the other hand, no one took over your LJ for a limited public conversation pumping themselves up over the Democratic win, either. Perhaps dignity in winning is also itself a lost art.

[chapel_of_words]

Maybe that was the smarter move - offering a congratulations and some space, giving it a few days (besides my Horde v. Alliance humor posting). But I was back at it with I certainly wasn't feeling compelled to visciously attack entire swaths of people I don't know by claiming they're racists, misognysts or homophobes...but sure...sometimes a little space was good. When you lose you give the field to the other team, allow them their celebrations. (You also may mistake me as a member of a Tea Party, which I'm not, they'd never have me for my stance on how to resolve illegal-immigration).

You may also have missed that Speaks made the same statement/inquiry about how could I possibly think that this was anything other than a repudiation of the Tea Party on my LJ, about 30minutes before posting it again here. My first response is largely a repeat of my response on my LJ.

http://chapel-of-words.livejournal.com/346593.html

On the other hand, no one took over your LJ for a

[lightbearer]

I have to admit a certain degree of curiosity concerning from where the straw-man last paragraph came. Was it a complete guess at my own political stance, or did my default political icon remind you of a point you wanted to make to the universe in general anyway?

[kingfrog]

Incidentally, I don't think I've ever mentioned it, but I LOVE your politics icon. :)

[chapel_of_words]

You'll find that I meander in almost all my posts, offering thoughts, because (again) this is kind of like a coffee house. I also type like I would talk, occaisonally moving into a new subject

[kingfrog]

This concerns me because I strongly support a wide range of social freedoms that would normally put me in line with liberals (gay marriage, drug legalization, less government security powers). But I find myself quickly being alienated from wanting to have anything to do with a group that can't muster the maturity or tolerance to have a discussion with someone who's viewpoint they disagree with without calling them racist, homophobe or misognyst.

Thanks! You and I agree on a remarkable range of stuff, as these are all things I've thought over the years. We need our own party. :)

[chapel_of_words]

Radical Moderates, it's where *we're* at! =)

Tim C.

[kingfrog]

Dignity is a vanishing art, in losing or winning. Sadness.

[logiphage]

The media and the leadership in both parties has framed teabaggers too well as 'messianic crazy' as Tim puts it. They do the same whenever there's a popular fiscal conservative movement. Tim, like many libertarians (oh, i mean, "radical moderate";) is too keen on being accepted by the cool kids. We call them cosmotarians, intellectual libertarians, who sound like liberals at cocktail parties because they still want hugs from liberals;)

I can explain what the TP is really about but to most people 'reality' isn't what they see with their own eyes, or could see if they attended a local TP meeting, reality is a picture of a couple of extroverts in tricorns they see on the news, or the evil Koch conspiracy, or the 'Family' they hear about on NPR.

Personally, by now I enjoy the confused look when I tell people I'm in the tea party. I know they are wondering where my 'garb' is, and if I have a musket in my car. I think it appeals to the punk aesthetic of unapologetic nonconformity that I apparently never grew out of:)

[speaks]

I like the fact that the evil media is doing this.

It couldn't be that most of the big name candidates for the tea party for the senate were bug-eyed nuts.

I'm speaking of O'Donnell, Angle, Rubio and Paul.

[logiphage]

It's nuts to observe that social security is a ponzi scheme that is way way past broke and needs to be fixed?