PSI Seminar - just say no
Last Thursday through Sunday I attended a PSI Seminar in Portland, OR with my stepmother & sister. Yes I was wary, however, I didn't pay for the course it was purchased for me as a "gift". The schedule went something like this
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I think your effort would be better spent letting her figure out about the negative side of PSI for herself versus trying to force her to listen to reason. This will reinforce the triggers / "tools" that are set at the basic seminar to tell you that those who don't get involved in PSI are not "supportive"
PSI Seminars tells people that have graduated to cut off ties with those not supportive of their goals. I will suggest the best thing you can do for YOU is to not go to the "graduation" and maybe tell her something similar to what I told my sister in the post above.....
"You may not believe me when I tell you how happy I am for you. And I hope with all my heart you understand that you had this (feeling happy alive etc.) within you all along. I'm glad PSI was able to help you realize this to the extent that you are now. But you've had this inside you all along - PSI didn't give it to you - YOU did because you're an amazing person even if you didn't always see it yourself I ALWAYS did (even if I didn't tell you all the time).
Don't be sad I will not be going to graduation with you - I do support you in your personal goals 100% I always will. PSI is not for me. Plain and simple. I'd like to hear about your graduation afterwards if you care to share."
If you do go to graduation there will be a large push to get you to sign up. Peer pressure does wonders so my suggestion would be to avoid the graduation at all costs.
Again, best of luck to you
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I did go to the graduation - to try and be supportive - I was not surprised by the peer pressure. I have been through similar pitches from Amway and Time share condos.
What did surprise me was the way she was nodding her head and almost leaping out of her seat to agree with the presenter. When she got on stage to be acknowledged she had a look I can only call "rapture"
I didn't even recognize her.
She took a cash advance from her credit card to pay the $3000 for the advanced PSI 7.
Last night was not good. I tied to tell her my fears, but I think that you are right- it seemed to activate triggers in her and she would say things like "YOu need to look at yourself and why you are reacting this way" and saying that I wanted to keep her in despair. I never saw her or us in a place of dispair before.
I want to support her, but something does not sit right with me about this whole thing. I hardly slept last night and I am worried sick today.
anyway...
Thanks for the advice.
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http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?4,50782,page=6
After PSI 7 there is Principia which is even more expensive. Sadly what people don't understand is the best things in life ARE free and usually right in front of their face. They do not cost thousands of dollars.
I'm sorry that this is happening to you, my thoughts are with you as they are with anyone else who has had a loved one fall into the PSI trap. Ultimately you need to take care of yourself - anything you do to try to dissuade her from participating in PSI will only enforce the PSI "tools".
Again, best of luck to you.
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A very good friend of mine has been involved with psi for the last 6 months. Of course she has tried to get me to join ever since she took the "basic". I have been using the excuse that I'm just too busy to take a weekend off of work and that has kept her at bay for now.
During this time I have read nearly every blog entry and clicked on every link I could find on the subject. Needless to say I've decided not to attend. I haven't yet told her this and I'm sure she still thinks that I'll be convinced to go.
Here's my problem:
She has a business idea and she wants me to be heavily involved. Under normal circumstances I would very supportive of this, but after reading about broken marriages, massive debt, etc. I have huge doubts about going into business with someone who's under the psi influence.
I love and trust my friend. However, I do not underestimate the power of these LGATs over otherwise good people.
Does anyone have advice? Can I trust my friend? Thanks for reading.
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Ultimately, it is up to you and whether or not the business meets her goals but your goals as well. There is a high probability that the money gained from the business would be rerouted for advanced PSI training and that may not be in your best interest or the best interest of the business.
When I was at PSI basic the bulk of people heavily involved, including those that had gone into advanced training were deeply in debt and had serious relationship problems. For some reason though they could not see that a good bulk of their debt was directly due to them pouring money into PSI.
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The next morning, I told my client (the one that signed me up) that I would not be attending and she wanted to know why. I told her that I had been doing some research and was convinced this wasn't for me. She then told me that she had been a part of this group for 2 1/2 years and it has been the best thing for her. I started crying because I have been knowing her for 1 yr and she is a basket case on emotional roller coasters daily, but I never knew she was involved in this group. I had never even heard of PSI. She basically told me that she takes what she wants from the classes and leaves the rest. I am really upset as I watch her 1 yr old son and had been wondering what was going on. He constantly cries and is just unhappy. She told me she is in some 90 day course where she has only been seeing him one night a week. I just don't see what is more important than your family and health. She stated she was fine, cried and went to work.
I immediately started emailing and calling PSI including the corporate office and got nothing. Then, I received an email from PSI stating their bullshit tuition refund policy. So in order to receive a refund, you must attend the full class, bullshit. I replied to them with, I will not be attending any of your seminars and do not want to be associated with your group. I was not fully informed of the methods used to teach the tools in order for me to make the decision that was best for me. I then told them I demand a full refund and that I was going to the Attorney General's Office and seeking an attorney for advice.
My client came in with my $500 and told me she was sorry and that I need to do what is best for me. She was a totally different person when she came in, she grabbed her son and his things and left.
Later I got a call from her apologizing for not fully informing me of the methods and tools and hopes that I don't think she was trying to trick/fool me. I just told her that it wasn't her fault I should have done my own research and made a sound decision before giving up my money.
This morning she showed up with a new attitude and her son is still this crying and screaming child. What should I do? He is so innocent and to me it is abuse and neglect.
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“Attend a PSI seminar with eight of my closest, newly-converted PSI buddies. While I’m at it, why don’t we refinance the house to pay for their upper level seminars too? ***, let’s just give them the house for their weekly PSI meetings. That would seriously be the lamest thing I think anyone could ever do.
People whose loved ones got involved with this group said after the person in question attends the big seminar (its like a week long retreat) they usual break up with their significant other 30 days afterwards then go and do really crazy poo poo - like buying houses and cars they have no way to afford, quit their jobs, and its really common they hook up with someone they met at the retreat or start dating people they met on internet dating services.
They commented that the "core group" that they were with at the seminar become their support circle and they have constant contact for awhile. They support each other through all the radical decision they make after the seminar. Then after everyone's life goes haywire due to the batsh*t behavior they lose contact and everyone spins off in their own orbit of crazy. They then just promote and staff the local events (that are just recruiting new members) so they can go to the next level retreat. (I think there are 3 major levels of retreats and you are not allowed to contact any outsiders during it (no phone calls, cell phones, email, nothing) totally isolated from your normal circle and surrounded with fellow recruits and members only.
That about sums it up. Want to Join this Batsh*t Now?”
Then I was checking out PSI on FACEBOOK and found a perfect example of what happens when your so brainwashed by PSI Seminars:
Heather wrote at 3:44pm on March 4th, 2009
Hey Everyone! I am so driven in life now that I have graduated WLS. I did the Basic Seminar Jan 29th, four days later went to PSI 7, and then five days later went to WLS. I see the vision. I have felt the urgency needed to make changes in my life and my true vision came to me at WLS. My vision and purpose in life is to be of service to those all over the world. I will create and cause some kind of change in this world. PSI Seminars has a great vision, but it needs to be taken a step further or the vision will die. I will be a part of creating the first of many expansions of PSI all over the world. The first step for me, is getting to principia, so that I may also become a facilitator. With that being said, I am asking for support from my fellow PSI graduates. I exhausted my credit cards and bank account just doing what it took to get through Basic to WLS this last month. I need to raise $3800 to go to principia by March 6th, this friday (to get the discounted price anyway).
Now tell me this is “Normal.”
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I have provided external links throughout this post - many of which contain similar stories to yours.
I hope at the very least you are able to find helpful resources throughout this post to find answers the answers you are seeking to a question no one wants to ever have to ask.
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