Credit where due: I took over, this time, for Naraht, who's busy with something like a doctoral thesis right now. Linkspam is her baby; she started the collection during Mammothfail. (And she got the idea from rydra_wong during racefail.) Wasn't my idea, but I'm happy to gather links.
I don't have time to read, think & reply either. Linkspamming is simpler than that; uses different parts of the brain. I'm incredibly behind on replying to comments for my S'Games story because of this.
Good thing you didn't implement this observer effect while Ogi was busy putting both feet in his mouth
I did. There's a timelag, generally 12-36 hours, between posts & linkspam roundups. SurveyFail linkspam started evening of Aug 31; by Sep 2, he'd locked his journal down to just the fauxpology, and another couple of days later, he deleted it entirely.
That's well within the range of post, 20 hour delay for linkspamming, 20 hour delay for fannish replies to roll in, 20 hour delay for next linkspam roundup, few more hours for Doc Ogi to notice... bah-leetion!
I know the Linkspam notifications & icon work as both "heads up, you could be getting strangers here soon!" and "hey, come check out the rest of the drama!" And the cycle perpetuates itself; notifying people that they've been included encourages them & their friends to provide more content for the next round. (Still haven't figured out how to find posts that aren't googlesearchable, though. Like most of IJ. Need more minions.)
Linkspam's a bit too ecumenical to be a good newsletter--but it could be source material for a newsletter that covers a broader range than Metafandom. (MF's rule is "already has interesting discussion going on;" MF doesn't link to cool posts that aren't yet active, so the MF crowd often comes in after the first 50 comments. And MF won't link to anything w/comments blocked, regardless of how on-topic it is.)
Unfunnybusiness at Journalfen is doing a good job of synopsis & updates on the issues, so I don't have to think about sorting out content while I'm collecting links. I think they're taking over the job of "fandom issues newsletter"--but it's one issue per post, and it's got the problem of being on JF and running with a version of LJ's code that was old when I started to use LJ.
------ I want to sort the Linkspam collection (first this set, 'cos it's fresh in my mind, then Mammothfail, which will be more difficult) so that people who come into it later can make sense of it--start with the synopsis posts, followed by anything that got spinoff posts, then those reactions, and down at the bottom, signalboosts-of-interest.
And I definitely want the SFail collection well-sorted, to throw at future academics who want to study fandom: here is your object lesson in What Not To Do. Also, a warning that fandom moves *fast* when motivated.
Ah, yes, ok, I see, yes, well maybe, yes, cool, sounds good, agree!
(Also having trouble keeping up with comments, LOL)
Unfunnybusiness at Journalfen is doing a good job of synopsis & updates on the issues... I think they're taking over the job of "fandom issues newsletter"--but it's one issue per post, and it's got the problem of being on JF and running with a version of LJ's code that was old when I started to use LJ.
Yes, and it's FW with the infinite regress of "if it's funny, mock it, and if it isn't, distort it so that you *can* mock it, and if you're out of mockbait, and done making it up, then mock the posters and the mockers, and the mockers of the mockers..." Plus, like you say, old LJ code: there is NFW I'm going to click to open every thread just to wade through the 99.9% stupid FW-clique-porn that substitutes for humor, discourse, and commentary, in hopes of the barely one or two comments per 100 that actually inform in an interesting way. To put it bluntly, if Ogi/Sai had wanted to paint fandom in the worst possible way, as the dumbest and rudest and crudest possible people, data-mining FW would have been the fastest possible jackpot.
I just can't be bothered to go over there. The parts-per-thousand quantity of May Be Interesting is as low as a random trawl through ffn. Linkspam, now ... that rocks.
I don't have time to read, think & reply either. Linkspamming is simpler than that; uses different parts of the brain. I'm incredibly behind on replying to comments for my S'Games story because of this.
Good thing you didn't implement this observer effect while Ogi was busy putting both feet in his mouth
I did. There's a timelag, generally 12-36 hours, between posts & linkspam roundups. SurveyFail linkspam started evening of Aug 31; by Sep 2, he'd locked his journal down to just the fauxpology, and another couple of days later, he deleted it entirely.
That's well within the range of post, 20 hour delay for linkspamming, 20 hour delay for fannish replies to roll in, 20 hour delay for next linkspam roundup, few more hours for Doc Ogi to notice... bah-leetion!
I know the Linkspam notifications & icon work as both "heads up, you could be getting strangers here soon!" and "hey, come check out the rest of the drama!" And the cycle perpetuates itself; notifying people that they've been included encourages them & their friends to provide more content for the next round. (Still haven't figured out how to find posts that aren't googlesearchable, though. Like most of IJ. Need more minions.)
Linkspam's a bit too ecumenical to be a good newsletter--but it could be source material for a newsletter that covers a broader range than Metafandom. (MF's rule is "already has interesting discussion going on;" MF doesn't link to cool posts that aren't yet active, so the MF crowd often comes in after the first 50 comments. And MF won't link to anything w/comments blocked, regardless of how on-topic it is.)
Unfunnybusiness at Journalfen is doing a good job of synopsis & updates on the issues, so I don't have to think about sorting out content while I'm collecting links. I think they're taking over the job of "fandom issues newsletter"--but it's one issue per post, and it's got the problem of being on JF and running with a version of LJ's code that was old when I started to use LJ.
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I want to sort the Linkspam collection (first this set, 'cos it's fresh in my mind, then Mammothfail, which will be more difficult) so that people who come into it later can make sense of it--start with the synopsis posts, followed by anything that got spinoff posts, then those reactions, and down at the bottom, signalboosts-of-interest.
And I definitely want the SFail collection well-sorted, to throw at future academics who want to study fandom: here is your object lesson in What Not To Do. Also, a warning that fandom moves *fast* when motivated.
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(Also having trouble keeping up with comments, LOL)
Unfunnybusiness at Journalfen is doing a good job of synopsis & updates on the issues... I think they're taking over the job of "fandom issues newsletter"--but it's one issue per post, and it's got the problem of being on JF and running with a version of LJ's code that was old when I started to use LJ.
Yes, and it's FW with the infinite regress of "if it's funny, mock it, and if it isn't, distort it so that you *can* mock it, and if you're out of mockbait, and done making it up, then mock the posters and the mockers, and the mockers of the mockers..." Plus, like you say, old LJ code: there is NFW I'm going to click to open every thread just to wade through the 99.9% stupid FW-clique-porn that substitutes for humor, discourse, and commentary, in hopes of the barely one or two comments per 100 that actually inform in an interesting way. To put it bluntly, if Ogi/Sai had wanted to paint fandom in the worst possible way, as the dumbest and rudest and crudest possible people, data-mining FW would have been the fastest possible jackpot.
I just can't be bothered to go over there. The parts-per-thousand quantity of May Be Interesting is as low as a random trawl through ffn. Linkspam, now ... that rocks.
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Surveyfail synopsis: "I wasn't expecting some kind of Fannish Inquisition..." (less links; more commentary)
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