Ogi apologizes by insulting fandom some MOAR (rev.1)

Sep 03, 2009 12:54

Ogi, thanks for more evidence of your social immaturity, your sexist bias, your utterly self-absorbed scientific twerpitude:

Apology [Sep. 3rd, 2009|06:24 am ( Read more... )

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romaine24 September 3 2009, 22:15:21 UTC
No poor sai. Take a look at my first post today. Yes you are right this is not an apology at all. If it was the data would be destroyed but instead he brags about it. Sigh

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slashpine September 4 2009, 00:05:04 UTC
Hmm... my reply to you seems to have been eaten by the internet!

Well. You are so right! If he was sincere, and recognized his fail, he'd point out that he had deleted all the data with a computer-savvy IRB person standing right there and then provide the email and phone # of that person *so anyone could contact them and verify.* It wouldn't absolutely guarantee no other copies had been made or printed, but it would show a good faith effort to make amends, which is what this apology lacks completely. When you've done harm, you work to fix it. He just cuts and runs, in a most irresponsible way.

*goes off to read your posts*

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slashpine September 4 2009, 00:14:22 UTC
Haha, ok, too many windows open. Here's my reply to you from hours ago, in an open window, left abandoned while I was off doing who knows what ( ... )

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marcmagus September 4 2009, 02:39:10 UTC
You've probably caught it by now, but, given the context, I'm pretty sure romaine24 was suggesting that one should emphatically not feel sorry for Sai.

I believe this is the relevant post: http://romaine24.livejournal.com/134010.html

In brief, Sai has publicly aligned himself with heinously reactionary, "back to the good old days", anti-feminist, misogynistic, homophobic [it probably wouldn't be hard to keep going, but you get the point] thought, which makes it hard to imagine him an innocent in all this. [I hope I haven't misrepresented your opinion here, romaine24; please let me know if I did]

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slashpine September 4 2009, 04:52:17 UTC
Yeah, his blog is kind of skeevy going in spots, eh. And the rest of it just makes him seem rather fatuously self-absorbed. I mean, OMG he goes on longer than I do LOL. Without sub-heds.

AND WITH NO COMMENTS. That's the part that makes me blink. I don't know many people in fandom who would post 28 pages a day for *a year or more* in a "public" forum and have not one person R&R? Oof. I would probably maybe change *something* after 40 days in the desert. Like maybe go get some friends, lol.

Did you see Sai's post on the Bollywood movies and how the men are SO MUCH MORE SEXY and interesting, which he goes on about *at length* and then winds up talking about how they're so "enthralling" your neural keys kind of all explode with the enthrallment-delight and then you're all relaxed and *lights cigarete*. It was very slash-fantasy, only he is like a cyborg having tentacle-sex, so his brain and computer keyboard are the main areas of whoopie.

I do wonder about these guys. Mid-30's coming out crises?

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romaine24 September 4 2009, 04:58:13 UTC
You're right on the nose. :) Thanks.

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romaine24 September 4 2009, 02:42:08 UTC
No my post doesn't refer to how he feels about his subjects. It's from a post ok his LJ. You don't have to read it but I think it sheds some light on him and why he wanted to keep fighting. Sorry I'm on my iPhone so I can't link you to my lj. :)

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romaine24 September 4 2009, 05:00:26 UTC
I wanted to add that your analysis of the apology is awesome. Thank you for taking the time to dissect it so thoroughly. :)

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slashpine September 4 2009, 08:24:34 UTC
OOH, now I'm totally in love with you. Most of my flist would say OMG Pine stop already at 2 paragraphs. I honestly didn't think there would be so much there when I started... and then, heavens, it just didn't stop giving.

Glad you liked it! Thanks for commenting!

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