Episode 405 "Freddie" - (new) Synopsis

Feb 22, 2010 12:47


New description of Episode 405 from the E4 website:


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mors_amor February 22 2010, 17:58:32 UTC
E4 likes the word hedonism...

I wanna know how Freddie can't see Effy is really in a bad moment.
The episode trailers look every interesting.

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wowsugarpuss_ February 22 2010, 18:00:53 UTC
lol I'm pretty sure I'll never be able to see that word again without thinking of Skins.

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divine_sarcasm February 22 2010, 18:01:27 UTC
I wanna know how Freddie can't see Effy is really in a bad moment.
It probably has to do with the whole "he doesn't really know or understand her" thing. But idk.

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sneaky_elephant February 22 2010, 18:10:59 UTC
I was going to say this lol. Hedonism is their 'it' word. Sheesh.

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diabolicalwoman February 22 2010, 19:11:39 UTC
I wanna know how Freddie can't see Effy is really in a bad moment.

It's kind of the story of her life, though.

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divine_sarcasm February 22 2010, 19:14:47 UTC
Except that the people who know her best (i.e. like Tony or even Cook) would be able to see that something is up...because they understand her.

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diabolicalwoman February 22 2010, 19:22:24 UTC
How does he not see something is up?

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divine_sarcasm February 22 2010, 19:25:17 UTC
Well the fact that it's already gotten to this point means something's been up for awhile and he's the one who's been spending the most time with her (he's her boyfriend). People don't just suddenly "have a breakdown"...it builds up. And she's been noticeably acting OOC around him for awhile, if he knew her, he would have realized that she was being that way. Even Katie has suspected that Effy's whole "I'm happy" thing is a front.

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diabolicalwoman February 22 2010, 19:33:13 UTC
Something has been up with Effy since S1 so yes, that's true. And from what I've experienced with people who have serious mental health issues you can't exactly help them and their problems don't have to be anything out of the ordinary. It comes to a head in a moment. You can try and help them and you can notice what's happening, but what is he supposed to do? She ends up in a clinic one way or another. It was just the moment that was being waited for. Should he have taken her there sooner? She's also shown that she doesn't take kindly to "help" either from other people or from certified individuals either ( ... )

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divine_sarcasm February 22 2010, 19:46:21 UTC
I'm not saying that Freddie should be able to "save" her (as the only person who can really do that is Effy herself). But, if he really understood her, he would have noticed that something was up and it looks like he doesn't actually realize that there's deeper problems there until the whole thing blows up in his face. As far as Effy letting people "take care" of her, she has in the past -- with Tony and with Cook -- when she needed someone the most. She may not ask for help or say when she's feeling lost or depressed, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't want it from the people who care about her.

I'm not sure why we're talking about her parents right now though, since how her parents act towards her and how Freddie acts is not mutually exclusive. Sure, they should be there in this episode to help her through it. But Freddie is the one who claims to be ~in love with her, that should hold some weight as well.

I don't know if Tony or Cook could have prevented it from happening, since that lies with Effy alone, but they probably ( ... )

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diabolicalwoman February 22 2010, 20:00:55 UTC
Yes, Effy is the only person who can save herself. Hmm, I suppose. Cook, Tony and Effy are all basically the same person, though, so naturally they'd understand her actions a bit more. Tony's known her the longest, he's her brother ( ... )

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divine_sarcasm February 22 2010, 20:14:16 UTC
Cook, Tony, and Effy are very separate and different people actually. They each also have very different personality types (if you go by the MBTI or any other system). They just have a few certain qualities in common that make them so compatible with one another. But that doesn't mean that's automatically why they understand her better.

I'm concentrating on Freddie's role in this because the episode is focusing on it and he's the one who is completely alone with Effy for this entire time, so obviously he's going to be the one people are focusing on ( ... )

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diabolicalwoman February 22 2010, 20:34:45 UTC
Well, yeah, but their main aspects are more similiar than they are different. I think it does. If you can't symphatize with what someone is feeling, you can't really understand them. I have that problem a lot between myself and other people. People don't think I have any reason to feel upset about certain things but that's because they don't understand that I can't help but feel that way ( ... )

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