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Apr 27, 2005 11:09

So, I've been back from college since Sunday, but I got another wisdom tooth out on Monday, so I was realy out of it for awhile. The pain isn't too bad anymore, but I had an allergic reaction to the painkillers they gave me this time. Frankly, I'm a little irritated, because the stuff they gave me the first time was so much better. I can't figure ( Read more... )

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skarlettkat April 29 2005, 01:00:20 UTC
I wasn't complaining about my GPA. I care quite a bit less about grades in college than I did in high school. When I said, "only a 3.87," I meant ".03 lower than it would need to be in order for me to earn a full scholarship and thus excitingly high, but tantalizingly close to a full scholarship and thus extremely frustrating." Like, a double-edged sword. I'm sorry that I get stressed about things like paying for college, but I don't forsee that stress disappearing entirely in the next three years, so I'm gonna have to ask you to deal with it :) However, believe me, I am working on being less insane about these things. I also think you should remember that you're attending McGill and are thus probably taking harder classes because 1) McGill has fewer GE's (I'm not at all into my major), and 2) McGill is very prestigious. Therefore a B+/A- for you is a very different thing than it would be for me. I would lose my scholarship entirely with such a GPA, not because it's low, but b/c BYU is easier than McGill (in addition to being filled with perfection-crazed LDS students..)

As to Lolita - Erica, that book is sick. If people could read it impartially, that'd be one thing. When we read it at OR, there were people in my class who were saying that we were supposed to read this book in order to consider another perspective on things. What's more, the other students couldn't see through the demented fantasies of this man. They really believed that Delores was seducing him! Sure, they thought she didn't know what she was getting into, but they actually thought she was seducing him! (when that was obviously a figment of his imagination). Graeham at one point made the comment that her mother, as a social worker who works with 70-year-old women who are still haunted by these kinds of experiences from their childhoods and teenage years, is horrified and disgusted for such a book to exist. I went through nothing compared to what that girl Delores does, and yet I still have nightmares at least once each week because of my experiences. Iwent across the country, to an environment entirely unlike the places of my childhood and youth and lived in a bubble of innocence for 8 months, but I was still overcome at times by deep depressions and by nearly uncontrollable desires to tear my own body apart in some demented effort to rid my mind of images and memories that were haunting me. I see no reason to consider this an "important piece of literature," and I'm disgusted by Vanity Fair calling it "the only convincing love story of our century." I'd like to slap whatever critic wrote that.

Sorry if this response comes across as angry or rude; I don't mean it that way. I mean no offense, and I know you didn't mean any offense either. I just feel very strongly about this.

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tejano_ceylon April 29 2005, 03:36:11 UTC
Yeah, I do too. I don't think it's a love story, and I don't think Dolores seduced Humbert Humbert. I agree when you say it's sick, because it is. It's a story of raping children. And I'm not in any way calling your experiences invalid or anything, and I'm sorry you still get flashbacks from what your "father" did to you. He's a fucking bastard and if I ever see him again, nothing on earth will stop me from kicking him in the nuts until he collapses.

However, I call it an important piece of literature because, when read properly, it opens peoples' eyes to the horrors of such abuse. They may have seen it before, but never understood the magnitude of its atrocity. Its two main problems are a) it's just sick and b) it has been so badly taught in schools. People treat it like a love story or like a different point of view, when in actuality Nabokov was trying to shake us into understading just how horrific raping/abusing a child is. I say it's valuable not because of its content, but because of its message. Its message is that rape is wrong. Child abuse is wrong. It is a sick, morbid, twisted piece of literature that is necessary because so many people refuse to contemplate the true nature of child abuse. They know it's wrong, but refuse to elaborate their thoughts beyond that. If one reads Lolita the way it was meant to be read, one is virtually forced to consider exactly what it means to hurt a child the way Humbert Humbert hurts Dolores.

Did you ever read "Reading Lolita in Tehran?" Excellent book.

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tejano_ceylon April 29 2005, 03:37:23 UTC
Oh, and I'm not offended. It's exciting to be debating again. :)

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skarlettkat April 29 2005, 14:08:44 UTC
Honestly, Erica, I think we see eye to eye. That is exactly what I thought when I read it - that the book was supposed to express the horror of rape and child abuse and show the readers how coniving, deranged, and yet convincing the rapists can be. Why on earth, then, could others not see that? We spent most of our class discussions debating whether it was reasonable/possible to create art for art's sake. (mainly it consisted of Dina saying art shouldn't exist without a point, or it ceases to be art, everyone else disagreeing, and then me saying, again and again "all art has a point! every single example you guys have given of "art for art's sake" has a point!")Seriously, they were giving examples of pieces of work that were considered rubbish, then explaining what the artists had tried to accomplish and yet insisting that there was no point in the pieces beyond "art's sake!" Anyway, I guess that's a debate for another day... But then there were all of the emotional moments when either I, or someone else (I forget now who said what), insisted that they needed there to be a point. That they couldn't read such a sick book and accept that any decent human being would write such a book without a point. I mean, c'mon, you simply don't write a story about a man raping a little girl "for art's sake." It just doesn't occur to anyone to do that.

So, maybe, instead of burning copies of Lolita, my mission should be to change the way schools teach the book? But, is that really possible? I mean, any school liberal enough to not ban a book with explicit sex scenes between a grown man and a child is probably going to teach it exactly the same way Oyster River does.

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tejano_ceylon April 29 2005, 14:27:39 UTC
I think that's a much better way to treat Lolita is to try and get people to understand its real message. I'll join you on that. :)

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tejano_ceylon April 29 2005, 14:28:18 UTC
And it's pretty surprising how such smart people so badly misinterpreted Lolita.

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