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Sep 15, 2010 18:45

[Crocodile switches his feed on while he's relaxing in his swanky new apartment. Apparently he's put Robin's present to good use, securing himself a pretty nice loft. He's idly polishing the massive hook that serves as his left hand, a bottle of bourbon on the table to his side.]

So many clashing philosophies, what a wonderful social experiment this ( Read more... )

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[voice] mentis_reae September 15 2010, 23:22:23 UTC

Justice is correct retribution for crimes committed.

Re: [voice] nakamadile September 15 2010, 23:24:49 UTC

That's all relative to culture though, isn't it?

[voice] mentis_reae September 15 2010, 23:27:54 UTC

And to the individual. What seems just to one may seem unjust to another. Which is why we must defer to the law.

Re: [voice] nakamadile September 15 2010, 23:37:31 UTC

The gap between what's law and what's just is often quite large.

[voice] mentis_reae September 15 2010, 23:40:35 UTC

Have you examples, or are you going to speak in generalities?

Re: [voice] nakamadile September 16 2010, 00:03:57 UTC

The Marines of my world believe in a doctrine called "Absolute Justice". Enforcing law by any means necessary. This includes destroying any uninvolved person who gets in the way.

[voice] mentis_reae September 16 2010, 01:10:29 UTC

And that is not true justice.

Re: [voice] nakamadile September 16 2010, 01:53:02 UTC

Is there a true justice? What is "correct" retribution?

[voice] mentis_reae September 16 2010, 02:43:24 UTC

Again, the definition varies from person to person. That is why people, in general, come to consensus - and that becomes law.

True justice...is not possible. Not altogether. It is a Platonic ideal towards which we must work.

Re: [voice] nakamadile September 16 2010, 16:49:25 UTC

Platonic?

[voice] mentis_reae September 16 2010, 19:07:10 UTC

Ah. Plato described how there is a conception of the ideal of every thing in the universe. For example, there is an ideal table, perfect in its proportion and composition. This table, however, does not exist and cannot exist in reality; every table formed is just an attempt to approximate as closely as possible this perfect table. Does that make sense so far?

Re: [voice] nakamadile September 16 2010, 20:10:55 UTC

I suppose. I was never much of a philosopher.

[voice] mentis_reae September 16 2010, 20:13:09 UTC

Hard to believe. We likewise strive to draw the system as close as possible to its Platonic ideal. Again, does that make sense?

Re: [voice] nakamadile September 17 2010, 23:25:54 UTC

Yes.

[voice] mentis_reae September 17 2010, 23:51:11 UTC

There you are, then.

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