Thanks for the interesting chat
snowwolfmystic, it's been months since I've been this amused!
When proposing business and serious matters, I didn't think anyone would be surprised when a token effort fails. I mean if a serious effort is made and all you get are token results, then that undertaking is obviously not worth the time spent. In today's fast paced world, the bottom-line is all that matters to many businesses, no matter what they produce.
I'd love to explain myself further in depth, but a lack of sleep simply won't do. Hopefully more later today, complete with an explanation of my opinion.