Unending

Jun 23, 2007 08:37

I've been sitting here for a while thinking about what I want to say. Far, far more than my usual alcohol-induced ramblings. I feel a bit... weird, because a couple of those scenes touched me far more deeply than I ever imagined they would ( Read more... )

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shutthef_up June 23 2007, 20:32:41 UTC
The nice thing is there's a huge amount of wiggle-room.

Depending on how you view Hathor sort of dictates just how much Daniel would react to that trigger. If Daniel was truly and deeply traumatized by it (I don't necessarily subscribe to that myself, but I know some do), then it could be a massive trigger.

And actually, I think the fact that Vala *hadn't* been coming onto him might have played into his reaction. At one time, her overtures were old hat to him. He was used to deflecting them. To have them suddenly reappear, apparently (to him) as a means of relieving her boredom, combined with his own frustration and cabin-fever, just annoyed the crap out of him and he blew.

To be fair, Vala usually came across as light and airy, sexual-wise. An any-port-in-a-storm girl. Daniel wasn't going to be that guy. He might have been, at one time, or perhaps even could be at some point in the future, but not while trapped on a ship with her. Daniel had no reason to believe that her feelings for him ran deeper than that. Not to mention that, as he stated, he felt that her sexual jibes were mocking him.

And I'm delighted that someone else understands the wrong/right/timing thing. Er... well, it probably sucks, but, you know what I mean.

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abyssinia4077 June 23 2007, 21:50:02 UTC
Depending on how you view Hathor sort of dictates just how much Daniel would react to that trigger. If Daniel was truly and deeply traumatized by it (I don't necessarily subscribe to that myself, but I know some do), then it could be a massive trigger.

Nods. I don't think Daniel was deeply traumatized, but I do think it affected him (though I doubt he even thinks about it much anymore, given everything that's happened to him since - I mean, it was, what, 2? 3? bodies ago). However, combining the "this woman only wants me for sex" thought with the going straight for the belt very similarly, it's possible he was reminded of it, and I would believe he might react stronger because of it.

I love how much you're making the character motivations make sense to me here - that it wasn't the build up but the suddenly going back - that since she had given up, it wasn't that she was interested but really only that she was bored, and I don't see Daniel as a any-port-in-a-storm guy at all. I just don't see him giving himself freely or easily, personally - so combined with feeling mocked, and, yeah.

And I'm delighted that someone else understands the wrong/right/timing thing. Er... well, it probably sucks, but, you know what I mean.

*nods* I saw again both my personal classic examples of wrong person/right time and right person/never-the-right-time a few weekends ago. So, yeah, I understand completely what you mean with the idea and with being hapy someone else understands.

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shutthef_up June 23 2007, 22:10:44 UTC
Well, I'm not trying to twist anyone's arm here, but if it makes you happier about the ep, cool!

I just remembered something that I think qualifies as foreshadowing. Remember at the beginning where Vala throws the surprise birthday party for Daniel? After he flatly says that it's not his birthday, he says something like, "When I told you to bring something to keep yourself entertained, I didn't mean me... or the crew."

It certainly doesn't sound sexual in that context, but I think it's sort of implied.

To put my situation in context I was the right person/wrong time person for my Ex. Hence the periodic 'You're not who I want to spend my life with'/'you're too damaged'/blah, blah freak-outs. Granted, he generally didn't melt down like Daniel did, but it was no less unpleasant to hear that every couple of years.

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abyssinia4077 June 24 2007, 20:31:11 UTC
I'm still working it through my brain - I'm not sure I, um, agree with all your interpretations - I just really appreciate you opening up new angles for me look through and work towards it all making some sense.

Oh, good point about the foreshadow! (and now I really wonder how she behaved when they went to Atlantis in "Pegasus Project" - it the Asgard galaxy a longer trip?). And even if the birthday thing wasn't meant sexually - it's still using him, in whatever way.

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shutthef_up June 24 2007, 22:05:40 UTC
Oh, no problem at all. It's been a good exchange either way :)

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