Penny and Bernadette's stories of how they would not have ended up with their guys were clever and spot on, but Leonard's story of Penny's presumed fate was just mean -- and on the general level of kindergarten meanness, to boot!
And Amy's fantasy . . . ? Oh, dear!
Howard's "Psycho" vision was at least cleverly macabre!
Raj's was perceptive, given his enabling tendencies and gift for home-making.
Poor Stuart! But at least he gets the 'last word' in a sense (and the last sigh).
But . . . AMY has changed Sheldon's life and made a positive change in it? If that's true of Amy, it's certainly true of Penny, also.
"I know." -- Wow! Having Sheldon use Han Solo's version of "I love you"? I'm hoping that's not how Sheldon meant it, at least.
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Sheldon is definitely the gravitic core of the group, for good or for ill.
But . . . AMY has changed Sheldon's life and made a positive change in it? If that's true of Amy, it's certainly true of Penny, also.
Yeah, there they go glossing over what has gone before. I love how they are so amazed that Amy got Sheldon to do something. Penny does(or did) that all the time. Heck if it wasn't for Penny convincing Sheldon that he needed to get to know her more if they were going to have a kid in vitro, Sheldon and Amy might have never gotten past the Skyping texting stage.
Penny's fantasy was pretty much how Leonard use to be when he tried to date Penny. The first time he sweated through his shirt and another time he became nauseated- and that's when he actually knew her. But Leonard's dream was like payback for her fantasy. Very petty.
Do you think that Sheldon would know what Hans really meant when he said that. To me, given Sheldon supposed social unawareness that should not even register.
Was Amy the one who encouraged him to head on over to Texas? If so then they truly have changed her character and morphed it into a wannabe version of the early season Penny. Why should the gang even be surprised that she'd gotten him to finally do something anyway? She's been doing that since season 5 already (maybe even longer than that! Penny and Leonard have even gotten him to do things themselves too! I guess they're just trying to idol Amy as much as possible just because she's the GF of THE stubborn-headed Sheldon Lee Cooper
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No, I think it was pretty much his mom that got him to go to Texas. She got him to go back into to the room with Missy and the baby after its birth- he said he wasn't going to because the baby wouldn't stop crying. They were all "amazed". And Amy was feeling that she didn't matter to Sheldon so much so Leonard showed her that she was Sheldon' s screensaver(along with a bunch of other people and fictional characters).
When Sheldon came back from Texas he and Amy were walking up the stairs talking. Amy said she missed him and Sheldon said something like "to quote Hans Solo, I know".
I still stand my ground about the gang overreacting because this isn't the first time she's made him do something, she's looking more and more like a mother figure for him as the episodes go by. It looks as if she's starting to sound as insecure as Leonard when it comes to doubting their partner's feelings about them too.
Phew, thank heavens! It's way too soon for either one of them to be saying those three words to each other right now. LOL I'm a bit surprised he didn't just outright say he missed her too. Knowing the canons they'll see it as his own way of saying he missed her as well but I don't think that's the case, he's more than aware of Amy's obvious fondness over him.
I have no doubt in my mind that he would've wanted her to go instead of himself. I mean he could've just straight up said "Hey I missed you too!" instead but for odd reason he didn't. Maybe its just me and I don't let these canons poison my mind with their over-exaggerated theories.
Do you think that Sheldon would know what Hans really meant when he said that? To me, given Sheldon supposed social unawareness that should not even register.
That's my hope -- that Sheldon either didn't realize what Han meant by "I know", or that he was re-purposing it to show a similar unwillingness to utter the socially expected words, "I missed you too", in response to Amy's dewy-eyed profession.
Yeah, so I just got around to watching this episode. I love the movie It’s a Wonderful Life so I had high hopes going in, especially with the Sheldon/ Penny scene in the laundry room (I actually thought about making popcorn). On the whole, I thought the episode was OK. I pretty much enjoyed all of the dream sequences. I guess if I had any criticism whatsoever about this part of the show, then it’s just that I wish the writers had had more balls to push the envelope. It’s unfortunate that they don’t look to the history of their own show to find inspiration. Instead of everybody wetting themselves, it would have been a lot more fun if Leonard had dreamt he was in Federal prison for revealing secrets to the North Korean spy, Joyce Kim. Raj could even have brought him a cake with a nail file in it, not because he was trying to help Leonard escape, but simply because he accidentally dropped it in the batter. Hell, why not truly go out on a limb and pay tribute to the actual movie. A simple headstone with RIP Leonard Hofstadter
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I didn't notice it was the same pair of shorts until you pointed it out. Great observation! :D Anyways, I love how you related Sheldon's back trip to Texas to what he did in TADD. You're right, Sheldon would've thought it pointless to go back to Texas for the delivery in place of Missy's husband if he didn't learn from the experience of taking care of Penny when she had no one else to turn to, but him. It makes a lot of sense. I wonder if any of TPTB also had that correlation in mind, too.
I also liked the alternatives you presented for the fantasy sequences. The fantasy scenes that happened in the episode were already entertaining and funny (except the Penny/Zack one), but those scenes would've made so much more sense and would've shown that the writers are aware and are able to acknowledge past events from past seasons.
You know Jomi, I continually ask myself the same question: "Why do TPTB write the things that they do?" I probably shouldn't bother. Nothing good can come from diving head first into what may very well be shallow water, searching for a deep end. But you see, I can't help it. I can't help but ask "why didn't the writers simply have Sheldon go home to Texas for Christmas?" It would have been so simple for them to do. It would have played right into their storyline, got Sheldon out the apartment, and set the stage for the "It's a Wonderful Life" theme for the episode. But the thing is, they didn't. The writers chose to jump through several hoops to create an elaborate storyline instead. Seriously, think of all the extra steps they added in
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I agree with all that. I also wonder why they keep on creating new Shenny scenes every once in a while when they're so against pairing those two up. I'm guessing they're just doing it to make the Shenny fans happy, but I think it only makes the fans have more hope or positivity for the pairing. Giving us more moments between the two would just flame our desire to see them get together for real. So there's gotta be a reason why they continually choose to write Shenny in some of the most eyebrow-raising (in a good way) situations. And I'm with you on that. It may seem like chasing rainbows for now, but I also choose to believe that whatever's happening in the series, particularly in the pairings department, it's there to build up the Shenny. 'Til then, I guess we'll just have to endure the canon pairing moments. X3
Anyways, I was also shocked when I found out that Missy's married and pregnant. Like whatttt?! O.o I would've liked to see her more on the show. I think she would've been a nice recurring friend for Penny.
A simple headstone with RIP Leonard Hofstadter would have sufficed to imply that Sheldon wasn’t around to save Leonard in S3 from blowing himself up with inaccurately measured rocket fuel.
So true! Leonard (and possibly Raj and Howard also) would've been blown up by Leonard's miscalculation of the amount of his rocket fuel appropriate to Howard's model rocket before any of the events in the series ever took place -- IF he hadn't already been arrested for giving away secret info to North Korea!
Penny and Bernadette's stories of how they would not have ended up with their guys were clever and spot on, but Leonard's story of Penny's presumed fate was just mean -- and on the general level of kindergarten meanness, to boot!
And Amy's fantasy . . . ? Oh, dear!
Howard's "Psycho" vision was at least cleverly macabre!
Raj's was perceptive, given his enabling tendencies and gift for home-making.
Poor Stuart! But at least he gets the 'last word' in a sense (and the last sigh).
But . . . AMY has changed Sheldon's life and made a positive change in it? If that's true of Amy, it's certainly true of Penny, also.
"I know." -- Wow! Having Sheldon use Han Solo's version of "I love you"? I'm hoping that's not how Sheldon meant it, at least.
"Six Degrees of Sheldon"
Sheldon is definitely the gravitic core of the group, for good or for ill.
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Yeah, there they go glossing over what has gone before. I love how they are so amazed that Amy got Sheldon to do something. Penny does(or did) that all the time. Heck if it wasn't for Penny convincing Sheldon that he needed to get to know her more if they were going to have a kid in vitro, Sheldon and Amy might have never gotten past the Skyping texting stage.
Penny's fantasy was pretty much how Leonard use to be when he tried to date Penny. The first time he sweated through his shirt and another time he became nauseated- and that's when he actually knew her. But Leonard's dream was like payback for her fantasy. Very petty.
Do you think that Sheldon would know what Hans really meant when he said that. To me, given Sheldon supposed social unawareness that should not even register.
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When Sheldon came back from Texas he and Amy were walking up the stairs talking. Amy said she missed him and Sheldon said something like "to quote Hans Solo, I know".
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Phew, thank heavens! It's way too soon for either one of them to be saying those three words to each other right now. LOL I'm a bit surprised he didn't just outright say he missed her too. Knowing the canons they'll see it as his own way of saying he missed her as well but I don't think that's the case, he's more than aware of Amy's obvious fondness over him.
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That's my hope -- that Sheldon either didn't realize what Han meant by "I know", or that he was re-purposing it to show a similar unwillingness to utter the socially expected words, "I missed you too", in response to Amy's dewy-eyed profession.
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I also liked the alternatives you presented for the fantasy sequences. The fantasy scenes that happened in the episode were already entertaining and funny (except the Penny/Zack one), but those scenes would've made so much more sense and would've shown that the writers are aware and are able to acknowledge past events from past seasons.
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Anyways, I was also shocked when I found out that Missy's married and pregnant. Like whatttt?! O.o I would've liked to see her more on the show. I think she would've been a nice recurring friend for Penny.
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So true! Leonard (and possibly Raj and Howard also) would've been blown up by Leonard's miscalculation of the amount of his rocket fuel appropriate to Howard's model rocket before any of the events in the series ever took place -- IF he hadn't already been arrested for giving away secret info to North Korea!
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