Sammy Left the Water Running

Dec 14, 2011 14:25

Title: Sammy Left the Water Running
Summary: Stanford. John stops by to see how Sam's doing. Not so great, it turns out.
Warnings/Spoilers: None of 'em.
Wordcount: .3,391
Author's Note: Sammyverse--asthma Sam and BFF Winchesters, but Dean's not in this one except on the phone. We will return to your regularly scheduled season 4 soonish, but sometimes ( Read more... )

john pov, sammyverse, sammy left the water running, angst:medium, food allergies, stanford era, sick!sam, h/c, asthma

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romantiscue December 14 2011, 20:54:49 UTC
(...I feel a sudden need for a John icon)

I feel like there is a lot of pride in John only visiting to see Sam, and also a i-can't-stop-myself-from-caring. I'm thinking John swore to himself that he wouldn't go to visit, that he'd satisfy himself with Dean's visits and knowing that Sam was alive and alright that way... only to find that it wasn't enough.

You know, for all that Sam and John are alike in how they *act*, John is kind of a lot like Dean in how he *thinks*. The way he worries, wants to kill those thoughtless boys and is overprotective of Sam's sickly self and... I don't know. Just got this feeling of similarity that I didn't have before. Even if John is going about it differently (and often to Sam's and Dean's detriment), the concern itself feels similar. The way he got it, when Sam explained postmodernism to Dean, how much his youngest son really wanted to be at Stanford... he didn't even have to ask after hearing that. And he stopped arguing after that, despite himself.

...Did Sam know John was around, btw? Also, did Dean suspect that John would remain in the room when Sam spoke to him and kind of 'arrange' for John to hear the postmodernism thing? Oh, and did I imagine John being pleased about Sam not asking for Dean? It felt like he was happy that he got to be enough for Sam for once.

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shangrilada December 14 2011, 23:21:19 UTC
YES. I love your analyses of my stuff so fucking much.

Sam did not know that John was around. Sam was just ready to curl up and disappear. Dean knew that John would be in the room, yep. And John was deeeefinitely pleased about Sam not asking for Dean.

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romantiscue December 14 2011, 23:43:23 UTC
<3 I'm very happy to hear that, because I just can't seem to help myself from doing it!

That's kind of tragic, poor Sammy. Didn't even expect for anyone to help him get through this... when he walked out on John and Dean to go to Stanford, did he truly believe that it would mean he'd lose any and all familial support? Or was his insistence not to contact Dean/John just stubbornness on his part? (And a wish to avoid worrying Dean, ofc.)

Dean is smart. Or he just knows John that well.

I wonder what John thought when he realized that Sam was starting to look more toward Dean for... well, *everything*, than himself? And when that became the normal state of things? And when John realized that he might be inviting his boys to be more intimate than he really wanted them to be? And when Dean became a 'rival' almost, for Sam's affection/need...?

Hmmm, I like your John POV, so I hope we might see more of it sometime in the future. It's interesting to see things from his perspective and get a better feel for his character. He comes across as more sympathetic than I thought him to be.

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shangrilada December 14 2011, 23:44:54 UTC
Nah, he knew he could have Dean and John if he needed them, he just...didn't want anyone just then. He was SO tired and so embarrassed by the whole thing, he just wanted to sleep and not have to talk to anyone. John let him do that, really.

I really like writing John POV, so I'd like to do more of it. And I want to play with his rivalry with Dean, too.

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shangrilada December 15 2011, 10:10:27 UTC
Diiiiisagree. Sam tried to change places with Dean, 1:1, for when he was in Hell.

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shangrilada December 15 2011, 10:21:29 UTC
yep.

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shangrilada December 15 2011, 10:33:07 UTC
(did he say that to the male crossroads demon he then stuck ruby's knife into? I really cant remember), yep, that's what I was talking about.

I don't know. I get really prickly at the implication that Sam doesn't love Dean as much as Dean loves him, because I feel like that's aaaall over the fandom (because fandom is largely Dean-centric, let's be honest) and it eats me up inside. I wrote...one of these to basically punch that idea in the face. Now I can't remember which one. I can't ever remember my own stuff, lol.

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shangrilada December 15 2011, 10:51:15 UTC
haha! nah, it makes sense. I just...wouldn't call Sam's aspect of it selfishness because selfishness is, you know, bad, and I think what Sam has is HEALTHY. it's just some self-worth, and if dean had any he wouldn't be nearly as fucked up.

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shangrilada December 16 2011, 03:23:33 UTC
eh, agree to disagree, I guess. I don't see Sam as more selfish than Dean.

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familybizness December 17 2011, 03:51:59 UTC
There is a spot where Sam asks to trade places with Dean. I think it's during s3 but I'm not positive.

AND I THINK it's when he's confronting the crossroads demon.

But again, could be totally wrong.

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shangrilada December 17 2011, 03:54:40 UTC
nope, you got it. flashback in I Know What You Did Last Summer. crossroads demon, knife through the hand. let me grab the transcript.

I have to bring up this scene a LOT to argue this case, haha.

SAM
No devil's traps, either. I'm not here to play games.

CROSSROAD DEMON
Well, let me guess.
You want to make a deal.
And 'round and 'round the Winchesters go.
I'm sorry, Sam. That's not gonna happen.

SAM stabs the knife into the CROSSROAD DEMON hand.

SAM
I don't want 10 years. I don't want one year. I don't want candy! I want to trade places with Dean.

CROSSROAD DEMON
No.

SAM
Just take me! It's a fair trade!

CROSSROAD DEMON
No!

SAM
Why not? Lilith wants me dead. Just let Dean go, and she can have me.

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