Entry 3 - Alchohol Insanity

[sgoodspeed]

My roomate comes home today, as it is St. Patrick's Day, in a drunken state of which one can hardly describe. I saw him coming home, as we live 14 floors up, and in the two seconds I was watching him, he fell over five times into the snow. I ran downstairs, across the street, and down the path, to basically drag him home, while deflecting two

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[jigsaw666]

I think you all have good reasons, but the bottom line is that sobriety isn't a choice - it's a defualt. It's what happens when you don't choose to do anything at all. Some people are idiots and abuse drugs, but some people are smart. Some people have guts and are smart, and it's these people that make the choice to understand who they are. You can't explain something without something to compare it too, that's an easily illustrated logical parable. So how can you know what sobriety is like with nothing to compare it too?

PS this is a semi-rhetorical question, i do intend an answer to those who choose to reply, but i'm not suggesting it as a be all, end all reason to use drugs, only a logical illustration.

PPS You've all used physcoactive drugs before.

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[jigsaw666]

But alcohol and drugs aren't constantly attempting to gain access to your body - you have to make conscious decisions to use them.

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[jigsaw666]

I have been typing for about 15 minutes, i've prepared a multitude of responces, but none seem appropriate. You've left me... terriblly confused, i guess. I don't even know how to think about that, much less express it. You've boggled me to an extent that i'm not even sure why i'm confused...

But i'll try, i guess...

I... frig, no i can't... i need more info maybe. How is it a constant struggle to remain sober? Sure maybe there's pressure from society but... well you don't want to know some of the responces i prepared. Could you explain a little further?

[zeegs]

Some people are more suceptable to acholism then others, I understand that some people can dirnk and handle it perfectly well. Then there are others who know that when they start they can't stop, and they drink until it destroys them and hurts the people they are close to. For people like that who cannot get over the urge but don't want to have the results it is a struggle. Social pressure shouldn't be underestimated either, if you've ever protested against something hoping to make a change then I think you have to belive that social pressures could create a struggle like Jill spoke about.

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[jigsaw666]

so it shouldn't be a struggle then. If your family has a history of alcoholism then you have a very good excuse not to drink. Social pressure can't overpower that.

[zeegs]

Or in contrast you learn from an early age that acohol abuse is normal and you fall more easiley into it. The family is one of the most important socalizing agents in personal development. Much of who we are or are not comes from our family background. If your family has a history of acholism there are many ways you can develop in that situation, one being the rejection of that part of your life with alittle contempt for the people who brought it into your life. But another that can't be ignored is that it can make you continue the family tradition, maybe you don't start off bad, but it would be a normal fixture in your life, not something alien at all, you would be able to relate, find acceptance and comfort in alcholism.

[jigsaw666]

Alcohol abuse is not normal.

And for the record, as i think we've gotten a few crossed wires, i think that alcohol is as dangerous as you guys do. I don't like to see it abused any more, and frankly we'd be better off without it.

[zeegs]

I didn't say that alcohol abuse was normal. I was just saying that if you were brought up in a situation where it is a dominant force in your life and you don't know any better that there is a possibility that you may view it as a normal part of life. I didn't think you were giving enough credit to how effective social pressure is, because its not just everyone telling you to drink, it is also your living conditions in that society that can effect you.

I still don't think I've written my complete view on the subject just bits and pieces between essay writing. I think I've been trying to comment on the general question and not you personally.

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[jigsaw666]

I'm 19, everyone on my floor goes out everynight to the bars, i stay here and debate with people, play guitar, and habg out all on my own. I'm well aware of social pressure.

I never said you commented on me personally. I just said don't think that i'm encouraging alcohol, because i'm not.

[zeegs]

I don't think you are encouraging alcohol, I'm just commenting thats all

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[jigsaw666]

OK, i know, i'm just tired at the moment, damn school work.

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[jigsaw666]

I know, i understand, i think i've said before, and in case not i will now, that what you present here is a clear and obvious exception that i would more than respect as a logical and compelling argument and make no attempt to argue against it.