I like this method of story telling they are doing. I know it's only 2 eps in, but really it's going a long way to making the characters that are not Rick & Carl complete people. I wish this episode wasn't so crowded. If they had focused on Carol/Tyrese & Darryl/Beth the ep may have flowed a bit better. I took me the second airing to realize that the guy who attacked Beth was the guy that Carol/Tyrese left on the road. (Why not ask him if he wanted a mercy bullet to the head?) That means if Darryl is tracking them they're a few hours behind at most. FYI - Yes the people they came across included Luke. Beth said something like, "That's Luke's shoe".
Anyway. Tyrese & Carol. (Can I just gloat for a minute and say I totally called Judith being with Tyrese?) I also guessed Lizzie was behind the dissected rats. I also like the juxtaposition of the 2 personalities. Carol looks soft but is really tough and Tyrese looks tough but is really soft. My (unspoilered)prediction with Lizzie & Carol; it somehow comes out that Lizzie killed them,
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I took me the second airing to realize that the guy who attacked Beth was the guy that Carol/Tyrese left on the road.
I still haven't been able to watch again, but yeah, I wondered the same thing -- like they just leave the poor guy there, sobbing. And I know there's nothing they can do, he's bit therefore dead man walking, but hey, maybe offer a little compassion? Stay and talk to the guy for a minute? And yeah, ask if he wants them to help him end it. Was just weird. Obviously I didn't get that it was the same guy, either.
Several people have said that after that attack, Daryl and Beth go the other way on the tracks. And honestly, how much time did Beth spend taking care of those kids if she recognizes Luke's SHOE?
(Can I just gloat for a minute and say I totally called Judith being with Tyrese?)
You certainly may. ;) Well done, you! :D
My (unspoilered)prediction with Lizzie & Carol; it somehow comes out that Lizzie killed them, perhaps by stabbing them like she couldn't do to her father. They were weak and all but dead
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Yeah totally different reads on Carol and her motivations. I don't see her as cold and methodical all. I see her as someone willing to do the hard things when she has to in order to survive. I see her as thinking she failed Sophia and trying to toughen up these kids in order to ensure they can survive. I also saw the group as thinking that K & D might not make it through the night and being at death's door. (Although the whole suddenly appearing ambu bags & IV kits continue to bug). IIRC when Carol last saw Glenn he was sick and coughing , but didn't have the "at deaths door" look that K & D had
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Remember during QaF when Brian & Justin were apart and Brian said "I never loved him… (l o n g pause)… but even if I did" and the B/Mers jumped on that as 'proof' that Brian didn't love/had never loved Justin because he just verbally said so? And the B/Jers wondered how the B/Mer's missed the 800 non-verbal clues and the rest of the sentence that made it clearly that Brian would always love Justin? This reminds me very much of that
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In regard to Rick: Two things. First, there was no council for Rick to go to. Carol was part of the council. Glenn and Sasha were sick. Daryl was on a run. Hershel was in isolation. Rick was IT. Second, everyone and their dog (minus Daryl) had been on Rick's back to stop being a farmer and step up and retake the leadership mantle. Even Carol wanted him to do this. So… he did. He made the call. It just wasn't a call she liked. But she can't have it both ways.
One thing that really struck me when Rick told her his decision, was that Carol looked shocked and hurt and said, "Rick, it's me." I read that as a sort of I'm your friend, we've been through so much together, you KNOW me, how can you do this?. And I can't help imagining Carol going into that isolation cell and Karen and David completely trusting her so their guard is completely down, and then Carol overpowering David and killing him, and then approaching Karen with her bloody knife and Karen backing away slowly, hurt and sick, and saying, "Carol, it's me(I've
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Anyway. Tyrese & Carol. (Can I just gloat for a minute and say I totally called Judith being with Tyrese?) I also guessed Lizzie was behind the dissected rats. I also like the juxtaposition of the 2 personalities. Carol looks soft but is really tough and Tyrese looks tough but is really soft. My (unspoilered)prediction with Lizzie & Carol; it somehow comes out that Lizzie killed them, ( ... )
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I still haven't been able to watch again, but yeah, I wondered the same thing -- like they just leave the poor guy there, sobbing. And I know there's nothing they can do, he's bit therefore dead man walking, but hey, maybe offer a little compassion? Stay and talk to the guy for a minute? And yeah, ask if he wants them to help him end it. Was just weird. Obviously I didn't get that it was the same guy, either.
Several people have said that after that attack, Daryl and Beth go the other way on the tracks. And honestly, how much time did Beth spend taking care of those kids if she recognizes Luke's SHOE?
(Can I just gloat for a minute and say I totally called Judith being with Tyrese?)
You certainly may. ;) Well done, you! :D
My (unspoilered)prediction with Lizzie & Carol; it somehow comes out that Lizzie killed them, perhaps by stabbing them like she couldn't do to her father. They were weak and all but dead ( ... )
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One thing that really struck me when Rick told her his decision, was that Carol looked shocked and hurt and said, "Rick, it's me." I read that as a sort of I'm your friend, we've been through so much together, you KNOW me, how can you do this?. And I can't help imagining Carol going into that isolation cell and Karen and David completely trusting her so their guard is completely down, and then Carol overpowering David and killing him, and then approaching Karen with her bloody knife and Karen backing away slowly, hurt and sick, and saying, "Carol, it's me(I've ( ... )
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