He ain't heavy. He's my brother.

Feb 16, 2010 12:43

Question. Is anyone on my flist a younger sibling? Then maybe you can tell me about the urge that compels a younger brother or sister to constantly follow his/her older one, even if the older sibling is simply horrible to them? I know I have treated, and sometimes do treat, my younger sister pretty awful, mostly because she is a brat, but she'd ( Read more... )

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vulcangela February 16 2010, 13:00:44 UTC
Not a younger sibling, in fact, I'm the eldest. But I always see this with my two brothers, one who is a year younger than me and the other one who shares a 8 year gap with me. No matter how many times his older brother has made him cry, my younger brother still looks up to him as a role model - hence he gets these notices from school for bullying his other classmates (as my brother bullies him XD)

I WANT TO REWATCH MEAN GIRLS TOOOOO

Alien names? lol maybe ask celebrities, they're always naming their babies some weird-ass names.

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secret_weapon February 17 2010, 09:45:16 UTC
That's a reasonably sizable age gap. Was he a surprize!baby XD

(My little sister was. They weren't planning on having another.)

Aww...that's kinda wrong but still kinda cute.

Mean Girls was awesome. Possibly because I'm the right age to have blocked out most of the unpleasantness of school and can laugh about it.

Ha, yeah. Maybe I'll go check the phone book. XD

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crystalshard February 16 2010, 17:24:04 UTC
I'm afraid I'm not much help here - I'm an only child. But this sounds like a fascinating story.

Mine's late as well, and it's all about pair-relationships - the established couple who've come to an equilibrium, and the young couple still struggling to find theirs.

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secret_weapon February 17 2010, 09:47:22 UTC
Hideki was initially only going to give Chekov some encouragement 'Bring him back for me, so I can keep on hating him.' but then he decided to stick around and help and it grew into this huge, complicated thing but that's okay cos he halped me resolve a plot point later XD.

Yours sounds pretty interesting too. Is it an ST fic?

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crystalshard February 17 2010, 17:28:04 UTC
Yup, it's Kirk/Spock (established pair) and Chekov/Sulu (new pair). It's possibly the most real story I've ever written in terms of interpersonal relationships.

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secret_weapon February 17 2010, 19:35:15 UTC
Hooray for expanding boundaries and challenging ... er... shallenges \o/

I've wanted to write a messy sibling rivalry fic for a while now... and an angsty deathfic as well (although this may/may not be a permanent state of affairs) which is probably why its getting so out of hand :/

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moonlitelupines February 16 2010, 21:32:13 UTC
As the youngest child, I can tell you it has a lot to do with idolizing your older sibling. They're older than you, which makes them cool--and when you're a kid, all you think about is growing up. At least I did. So I would follow my sister around, and she was horrid to me, because I wanted her attention, wanted someone cool to think I was worth said attention. It has a lot to do with wanting to be bigger than you are, I think.

Also, re: alien names. Wikipedia has this niffty random function. Just keep going through it until you find something you like. That's what a friend and I did when she needed an alien name.

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telyanofcelore February 16 2010, 22:31:41 UTC
I'm the eldest as well, but my little sister says it's because she thought I was the coolest person ever, and had the best ideas, and was the smartest ever (I'm thinking Stockholm Syndrome or something). It might have something to do with the occasional semi-parental role oldest children often have.

Re: alien names, I use a generator and modify to suit. Usually the Evil Names generator - they have an alien generator, but those sound absurd. Evil-sounding names sound absurd but like aliens... http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=evilsoundname

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secret_weapon February 17 2010, 10:14:48 UTC
Thanks.

I think Hikaru being cooler than Hideki (at least Hideki thinks so) will have something to do with Hideki's conflicted view of his brother.

Lol that generator site is awesome! I can tell I will have hours of fun on that XD.

... hours I don't have time for. ;____;

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telyanofcelore February 17 2010, 10:48:34 UTC
*evil laugh*

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jessofthebugs February 17 2010, 00:43:48 UTC
I'm both a younger and older sibling. Long story short, one wants to be like and/or get approval from said older sibling.

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secret_weapon February 17 2010, 10:16:58 UTC
I thought as much.

I suppose it's harder for me to understand because I've never really wanted approval from anyone. :/

I don't want my parents to be dissapointed sure, but that isn't the sam as actively seeking approval.

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jessofthebugs February 17 2010, 13:06:15 UTC
I don't think it's even a conscious thing. You want to do the cool things that your older sibling is doing, want to be like him or her.

Siblings have more in common with each other than with their parents. This is true for both "nature" and "nurture." I think that it's perhaps for this reason that praise from an older sibling who has been there and done that means even more than praise from a parent (who pretty much thinks you're awesome no matter what). Rejection from a sibling stings a little more for that reason as well. I don't think my older brother quite understands this- he's got the social skills of a potted plant, but with this understanding, I try to be gentle toward my little sister. It took me twenty years to figure that out. I was awful to her.

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secret_weapon February 17 2010, 13:39:24 UTC
I don't think it's even a conscious thing.
I'd agree with that. I guess is why most people (by that I mean my family. My parents are both the youngest in their respective households.) are often not able to articulate whyI'm afraid I am a pretty terrible elder sibling most of the times as well. Part of this is because of my sister's refusal to 'grow up'. I'm not just saying that. Several times when we have disagreements her arguments boil down to: 'because I'm the baby.' She's 22 ( ... )

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darklovesme February 17 2010, 04:27:14 UTC
I'm a little sister. I followed my big sister around and was her perfect little slave for years (Seriously, she once sent me down the stairs on a cardboard box into a closed door for shits and giggles.) For me, the reason was because I desperately wanted her to love me, and I thought doing what she wanted me to was a means of earning her regard. It didn't work and she didn't start being nice to me until her late teens. I hated her, but I still cried like a baby when she left for Scotland. Sibling relationships are conflicted.

As for the alien names... I usually pull out some obscure history reference and change the letters around a little because I'm a nerd like that.

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secret_weapon February 17 2010, 10:21:40 UTC
Wow. I've used to get the brat to do stuff (mostly to get something I wanted. She was perfectly capable of throwing a tantrum in a store but I wasn't) but never anything like that.

Thank you. That helps somewhat.

I have Hideki equal parts wanting to be Hikaru and equal parts hating Hikaru because he was/is so much better than him. (There is some truth in this but not as much as Hideki thinks he is). I've been stuck on a scene near the end where he lets lose at Chekov and rants at him at length about exactly why he hates/loves his brother so much.

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