Has anyone delved into the mirky waters of Klaus's genealogy? As I'm new to the fandom, I might have missed something in either canon or past discussions, but as far as I know, what we know is that
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I just got around to reading the El Halcon scanlations done by pink_panzer, and learned a bit about Tyrian's ancestry and therefore Klaus's from it.
Let's see. Early in it, his mother tells a young Tyrian, “During the time of Queen Mary, your grandmother from the Farnese family in Toledo married into an English family.” That would be Bloody Mary, daughter of Henry VIII of the six wives.
His mother was married to an Englishman whose name I didn't catch, but Tyrian's real father was Gerard Peru. Gerard was Spanish but was in the English navy. It turned out he was a spy for Spain.
After Tyrian's first husband died - of wounds inflicted in self-defense by a 10-year-old Tyrian! - she remarried to the governor of Cornwall, Lord Bascom Persimmon.
Another interesting note: Tyrian converted from Catholicism to Protestantism when he joined the English navy, likely for political reasons - this was the reign of Elizabeth I.
There's also a summary of Seven Skies, Seven Seas here, but I haven't read it in years and don't recall if there's anything related to Tyrian's ancestry in it.
I've downloaded them but haven't read them yet, although I just refreshed my reading of the summary of SSSS, which gives his parents' names but nothing else.
Having the Farnese family link might help pin something down. The problem is that we never see a reference to Tyrian marrying, do we? It is possible that he married someone while he was off in Spain having his ship built; otherwise, he can't really be an ancestor, but rather, a cousin of an ancestor at most.
Well, the manga keeps referring to Tyrian as an ancestor, so he must be one. (And I don't like giving the idea up.) Given his habits with women, it's entirely possible he didn't marry Klaus's great-great-etc.-grandmother; after enough generations, the family would have been willing to acknowledge it. Or that he married her for ulterior political motives, which would certainly be in character.
There's an intriguing possibility. While Tyrian was doing all his skullduggery (i.e., hunting down Gilda, killing off his real dad, framing Benedict Senior), the Duke of Palma was the Governor of Spanish Netherlands. The Duke's name was Alexander (Alessandro) Farnese, and his mother was the illegitimate daughter of the Habsburg Emperor, Charles V, and as such was half-sister to the king of Spain. We could theorize an illegitimate daughter (he had one, but she's too young and well-documented for our purposes) given to Alessandro's cousin-to-some-degree, Tyrian, as a reward for his help/spying.
That also helps with a link to Eberbach itself: Alessandro's great-great-grandson married into the new Elector Palatine's family, and they were the overlords for the Neckar river holdings (Eberbach included). This Elector was also Catholic, unlike his predecessor, which would explain Catholic Eberbachs in an area that was very Protestant.
Hmm, there's a bit of a problem with the timeline proposed here. Mary came to the throne in Nov 1553, and the Spanish Armada was in Aug 1588. That's 35 years for Isabella (that's Tyrian's mother) to be born, get old enough to have Tyrian, and then Tyrian progress through the ranks to be captain of his own ship during the Armada. Let's say that the grandparents were quick off the mark, after marrying in late 1553, and Isabella was born in 1554. Let's say that she was very young and precocious, and was 14 when Tyrian was born in 1568 - she still looks young, after all. That would make him 20 at the time of the Armada. Now, he's precocious, but that seems a little young to have made it as far as he had in the Navy, plus all the plotting!
However, it works if you look at it slightly differently. In 1537, Henry allowed his daughter Mary to establish a household and restored her ladies-in-waiting. It is possible that the Farnese grandmother came into Mary's service then, instead of when Mary was Queen. The theorize that Isabella is born between 1540-1545, which would put her at the right age to meet Peru while Mary is Queen. If she got pregnant right at the end of Mary's reign (1558) and Peru got the boot from court when Elizabeth came to the throne, it might explain why she married the lawyer, and would make Tyrian 29/30 at the time of the Armada.
Let's see. Early in it, his mother tells a young Tyrian, “During the time of Queen Mary, your grandmother from the Farnese family in Toledo married into an English family.” That would be Bloody Mary, daughter of Henry VIII of the six wives.
His mother was married to an Englishman whose name I didn't catch, but Tyrian's real father was Gerard Peru. Gerard was Spanish but was in the English navy. It turned out he was a spy for Spain.
After Tyrian's first husband died - of wounds inflicted in self-defense by a 10-year-old Tyrian! - she remarried to the governor of Cornwall, Lord Bascom Persimmon.
Another interesting note: Tyrian converted from Catholicism to Protestantism when he joined the English navy, likely for political reasons - this was the reign of Elizabeth I.
There's also a summary of Seven Skies, Seven Seas here, but I haven't read it in years and don't recall if there's anything related to Tyrian's ancestry in it.
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Having the Farnese family link might help pin something down. The problem is that we never see a reference to Tyrian marrying, do we? It is possible that he married someone while he was off in Spain having his ship built; otherwise, he can't really be an ancestor, but rather, a cousin of an ancestor at most.
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That also helps with a link to Eberbach itself: Alessandro's great-great-grandson married into the new Elector Palatine's family, and they were the overlords for the Neckar river holdings (Eberbach included). This Elector was also Catholic, unlike his predecessor, which would explain Catholic Eberbachs in an area that was very Protestant.
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Also, I am impressed with how deeply you have dug here.
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